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Arab-Israeli Conflict

 
 
Rella
 
Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2003 07:19 pm
I have a test on Zionism (what it is and why it began), the obstacles to establishing an independent Jewish State, why the Orthodox Jews would resist the Yishuv (the Jewish Settlement in Palestine), the Balfour Declaration, and the motives behind the British concerns of the Arab position in the 1930s.
I pretty much know all this stuff, and of course I've studied... but if anyone is interested in these topics and would like to discuss them, please feel free. It's always much more interesting learning from people who are eager about the matter at hand.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2003 07:39 pm
Hi Rella, welcome to A2K.

In your studies, what have you learned about the obstacles to establishing an independent Jewish State?
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Rella
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2003 08:09 pm
Butrflynet wrote:
Hi Rella, welcome to A2K.

In your studies, what have you learned about the obstacles to establishing an independent Jewish State?


Hi, thanks. Very Happy

Well, there was the issue of the Middle East being predominantly Islamic. The Arabs, while agreeing to let the Jews co-habitate with them, so long as they adhered to Islamic soveriegnty, did not believe they had a right to their own state. Since the Jews placed the laws of God above the laws of the land, they would not convert to the Isalmic way, and therefore residing with the Muslims would not work out.

Another obstacle was the decrease of Jewish settlers coming to Palestine. The annual number dropped after 1925 to an average of 2,500-5,000, which was hardly enough to repopulate a land and transform its national character.

Then there was the political factionalism among the Jews. The socialist-labor Zionists sought to collectivize the economic activity while judaizing it to Arab labor, placing socialism above the creation of a Jewish state. The Private Jewish Capitalists & Investors were in favor of Arab labor, and critisized the SLZs for favoring socialism. And the Orthodox Jews opposed the establishment of a Jewish state, because they thought it was inconsistent with their spiritualist view of religion.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2003 10:04 pm
"Since the Jews placed the laws of God above the laws of the land, they would not convert to the Isalmic way, and therefore residing with the Muslims would not work out."

But didn't the Ashkenazim reside with the goyim in Eastern Europe for centuries, and the Sephardim in Southern Europe and Africa also, and the Mizrahim in the Middle East for millennia?

Which Jews' opinon was it, specifically, that residing with the Muslims would not work out? That opinion doesn't strike me as particularly religious, especially when evoking the laws of God above the laws of the land, in light of the fact that religious Jews had resided with the goyim for millennia.
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