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Using agreed or agree?

 
 
Reply Mon 5 Oct, 2009 11:51 pm
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One of the biggest gains of Wen's visit is that he has successfully persuaded Kim Jung Il agreed to come back to the six-party talk table, because the bilateral talk between United States and North Korea will not be able to substitute it.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 5 Oct, 2009 11:56 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

Context:
One of the biggest gains of Wen's visit is that he has successfully persuaded Kim Jung Il
to agree to return to the six-party talk table, because the bilateral talk between United States
and North Korea will not be able to substitute for it.
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contrex
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 12:23 am
As David has indicated,

(1) When used with another verb, the verb "persuade" is used with the infinitive "to" form.

Will Wen persuade Kim to agree?

Mary persuaded her husband to buy a car.

(2) One thing substitutes (or is a substitute) for another.


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oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 12:49 am
Thank you both
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 01:30 am
"successfully persuaded Kim JongIl to return to the six-party table talk". You don't need any form of "agree".
contrex
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 03:37 am
@MontereyJack,
Nope.

Agreeing to return at some time in the future is not the same as actually returning. In the future, it may be possible, if Kim does return, to write simply that he was persuaded to return.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 08:03 am
It's indefinite present, which can be in the future. doesn't have to mean he's back today.
oolongteasup
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 08:07 am
i'm unsuccessfully persuaded
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 6 Oct, 2009 09:41 am
@MontereyJack,
I don't know if it's indefinite present but you could certainly use 'return' without 'agree' and it would hold the meaning MJ has suggested/suggests/suggested.
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