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The evening was balmy and the moon almost full.

 
 
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:09 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

Brandon shifts gears;
"R is for Race, right?"

As usual, dyslexia darts in with an irrelevant jibe, demonstrating yet again that he is unable to support any of his positions with actual arguments.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:09 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

A protracted war need not have been in the cards. I believe it became so, only because Bush took his attention off the ball and went after Iraq. He was content to let Afghanistan roll along.

That was then, this is now. Now we are where we are.


That doesn't mean we can't use our brains and stop the senseless mayhem.

You have yet to counter my arguments that that would be a mistake.
Francis
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:11 pm
Brandon wrote:
Our hypothetical culpability on other occasions is irrelevant to the question of whether we should continue the war in Afghanistan.


That's why history repeats itself, nations never learn from their past errors..
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:14 pm
@Francis,
Francis wrote:

Brandon wrote:
Our hypothetical culpability on other occasions is irrelevant to the question of whether we should continue the war in Afghanistan.


That's why history repeats itself, nations never learn from their past errors..

Not applicable, since he was not talking about other times when we were in similar situations. He was saying something along the lines of, "since you supported these bad and dangerous people in the past, you cannot oppose anyone now on the grounds that he is bad or dangerous," and that is a specious argument.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:16 pm
@Brandon9000,
It is a mistake, because we suckered ourselves (Bush and co. did) into a protracted ground war, needlessly. Now, to save face is no argument for continuing the slaughter. It's not just the economics - we can't afford it nevertheless - It's the fact we are going to be spinning our wheels there for twenty more years if we listen to people who think like you. And even then there is no certainty the other side will be pacified.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:18 pm
Arguing against several of you at once is still like shooting fish in a barrel. I have to get off now to let my wife talk with her family on the Web cam. I'll leave you imbeciles to declare victory in my absence.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:22 pm
@djjd62,
You haven't bought into all that crap, have you, Dj? It's never been about helping people. It's all about the US helping itself, it's about grabbing way more than their fair share of the resources of the world.

Quote:

Obama’s Imperative in Afghanistan: OUT!

by Richard W. Behan

Mr. President, you cannot continue this wretched, dishonest, disastrous war. If you do, your legacy will be poisoned by its obscene history.

George W. Bush was planning and mobilizing his attack on Afghanistan as early as March of 2001, some six months prior to the horrors of 9/11. The Afghan war, consequently, has nothing remotely to do with counter-terrorism. It is not an act even of preemptive self defense, but one of utterly unprovoked military aggression. Expressly prohibited by the charter of the United Nations, George Bush’s incursion into Afghanistan is an international crime.

Nor was the capture of Osama bin Laden of the least importance to the Bush White House"before or after 9/11.

Waiting on his desk when George Bush took office on January 20, 2001 was an offer from the Taliban to surrender Osama bin Laden, an offer negotiated by the Clinton Administration after the al Qaeda attack on the U.S.S. Cole. But Mr. Bush turned it down. And twice more during the spring and summer of 2001 the Bush Administration refused the offer. Then on September 11 bin Laden struck again. Four days afterward the Taliban sweetened the offer: now they would also shut down bin Laden’s bases and training camps. Once again the White House refused the offer. Several weeks later the Taliban repeated the offer, again it was rejected, and on October 7, 2001, George Bush launched the war on Afghanistan he had been planning for months on end.

http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/11432-obamas-imperative-in-afghanistan-out-.html

edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:30 pm
@Brandon9000,
Calling me a name like that is a sure way to get put on ignore.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:30 pm
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
I have to get off now to let my wife talk with her family ...


Aren't you just warmed to the very cockles of your heart that your family sits safe and warm while your government spreads death and destruction over families and countries the world over.

Yup, you are one fine human being, Brandon.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:37 pm
@Brandon9000,
"Since you have provided no supporting argument for your response to my post, I assume that you cannot. Case closed. "

there is plenty of evidence that you need a stickectomy.

it is all around us.

how many minutes a day do you let your wife speak to her family?

(i think it is a hell of a gesture on your part, personally...)
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Reyn
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 12:44 pm
http://www.law.msu.edu/amicus/wi_2003-04/current_media/winter/Couple-Arguing_PQ_757492.jpg
Chumly
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 01:00 pm
The evening had a screw loose, and the moon only had room for dessert!
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 01:01 pm
@Reyn,
I'm sure that the people of Iraq and Afghanistan would think that that's just hilarious, Reyn.
roger
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 01:19 pm
@dyslexia,
I recall a bit of news from my childhood. The Royal Brats were taken on a shopping trip and Bonnie Prince Charles bought a water pistol. The disk jockey required to read this crap stopped dead and said "This is news?"
dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 01:22 pm
@roger,
yeah, that was my point.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 01:39 pm
@JTT,
i could buy afghanistan as a solo war, it should have started there and ended there
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 02:07 pm
@djjd62,
Quote:
i could buy afghanistan as a solo war, it should have started there and ended there


Why would you be able to buy into a series of lies, Dj? Why would you think an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation is justified just to allow a US oil company access to markets that they had been denied?

roger
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 02:30 pm
@JTT,
Well, yeah. Everybody knows afghanistan is a really big market for US oil companies.
Reyn
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 03:06 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

I'm sure that the people of Iraq and Afghanistan would think that that's just hilarious, Reyn.

Believe me, the pointless arguing in this thread is no joke.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 4 Oct, 2009 03:07 pm
@Reyn,
People are dying. I don't see it as pointless to examine the problem.
 

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