Supreme Court to Decide Second Amendment Incorporation

oralloy wrote:

Strict scrutiny.

There is no compelling government interest in banning a pistol grip on a rifle.

All an assault weapon really is, is a regular gun with cosmetic features like pistol grips.

Even if someone made a case that there was a compelling interest in prohibiting large ammo magazines (a case I'd personally be highly skeptical of), the fact that assault weapons laws also ban cosmetic features like pistol grips means that the laws aren't narrowly tailored.

In a constitutional republic, the legislature acts as the fact-finder on behalf of the people. The legislative branch, therefore, is accorded wide latitude in determining whether a particular regulation is desirable or not desirable.

Are you suggesting, then, that, when it comes to gun regulations, the courts should overrule the judgment of the legislatures and act as a kind of "super-legislature" to determine what is a reasonable regulation and what is not?

But Joe that would be Judicial Activism,
and we know everyone on the right totally hates that, totally.

Cycloptichorn

U repressionists are obsessed
with always pretending that it is sexual,
as if I were going to say:
"O, no! Thay 've figured me out; -- now thay know.
O, I 'm so ashamed.
Therefore getting killed by a violent predator, man or beast, no longer matters!"

oralloy wrote:

Strict scrutiny.

There is no compelling government interest in banning a pistol grip on a rifle.

All an assault weapon really is, is a regular gun with cosmetic features like pistol grips.

Even if someone made a case that there was a compelling interest in prohibiting large ammo magazines (a case I'd personally be highly skeptical of), the fact that assault weapons laws also ban cosmetic features like pistol grips means that the laws aren't narrowly tailored.

In a constitutional republic, the legislature acts as the fact-finder on behalf of the people. The legislative branch, therefore, is accorded wide latitude in determining whether a particular regulation is desirable or not desirable. Are you suggesting, then, that, when it comes to gun regulations, the courts should overrule the judgment of the legislatures and act as a kind of "super-legislature" to determine what is a reasonable regulation and what is not?

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U repressionists are obsessed
with always pretending that it is sexual,
as if I were going to say:
"O, no! Thay 've figured me out; -- now thay know.
O, I 'm so ashamed.
Therefore getting killed by a violent predator, man or beast, no longer matters!"

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It's not a pretense; that's what we honestly believe about you guys.

Then I misunderstood u;
I took it as all of u being DISMISSIVE of us,
(in other words: rejecting our concerns as being facially ridiculous,
because there is no predatory danger to our lives nor property)
in a way that shows contempt for us, because u don 't like us
and that u are hoping to get us to shut the hell up by embarrassing us
because u don 't like what we say, because it is politically incorrect.

I took it as all of u unsuccessfully trying to embarass us into shutting up.

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And while I can't speak for others, it's been a lifetime of experience of mine,
that those who are the most insecure about their manhood
or lives in general are the ones who are most compelled to engage in obsessive behavior towards guns.

If u knew me, if u 'd hung around with me enuf, u 'd know that
when I have something to say, that I care about, I can be a loudmouthed guy -- and persistent,
to an unusual degree, upon the enforcement of my rights.
To me, this is natural; reflexive; that 's Y I became a trial attorney, with some degree of success.

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I would add, that statements you've made here,
regarding the secure feelings garnered at a young age from possession of a firearm,
do nothing but add fuel to the fire.
Cycloptichorn

Is it your thinking that when at age 8,
I felt ill-at-ease about my ability to defend my home (unarmed),
that at the root of my discontent was sexual impotence ?
or that I was not able to get enuf young ladies to date ?
U believe that I really was indifferent to whether I fell prey to man or beast?

Is it your thinking that when at age 8,
I felt ill-at-ease about my ability to defend my home (unarmed),
that at the root of my discontent was sexual impotence ?
or that I was not able to get enuf young ladies to date ?
U believe that I really was indifferent to whether I fell prey to man or beast?

The medical community comes out with bogus claims like this every so often.

Yup. Right on time.

Why not call it what it is: verbally and metaphorically stroking their penises for reassurance.

Cycloptichorn

It's not a pretense; that's what we honestly believe about you guys.

Cycloptichorn

No, they don't.

The article stated clearly that this was the first time such a study had been done. so having you state that

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The medical community comes out with bogus claims like this every so often.

is an awfully ******* stupid thing to say even for you.

You know what a person is called when they ignore facts because they don't fit in to personal opinions?

A moron.

And while I can't speak for others, it's been a lifetime of experience of mine, that those who are the most insecure about their manhood or lives in general are the ones who are most compelled to engage in obsessive behavior towards guns.

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Is it your thinking that when at age 8,
I felt ill-at-ease about my ability to defend my home (unarmed),
that at the root of my discontent was sexual impotence ?
or that I was not able to get enuf young ladies to date ?
U believe that I really was indifferent to whether I fell prey to man or beast?

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No, I don't believe that you understood what was going on at that age;

Well over half a century has passed since then.
I am not aware that I was in error about something,
except that I know in hindsight that I was not attacked
during my childhood, nor was my house invaded.

What is it that u believe that I shoud have known, or "understood" ?

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yet, like many others I have met in my life,
that feeling of security that you get from owning a gun
has more implications than you might think.

Cycloptichorn

What implications does it have?
I am genuinely interested in this.

Anyone who gets this excited about guns has to have a tiny penis.

joefromchicago wrote:

In a constitutional republic, the legislature acts as the fact-finder on behalf of the people. The legislative branch, therefore, is accorded wide latitude in determining whether a particular regulation is desirable or not desirable.

Not when it comes to questions of whether a law violates a fundamental right.

What ever happened to State's rights?

Cycloptichorn wrote:

And while I can't speak for others, it's been a lifetime of experience of mine, that those who are the most insecure about their manhood or lives in general are the ones who are most compelled to engage in obsessive behavior towards guns.

In my experience those who are most insecure about their manhood are the ones most likely to use such accusations as an argument.

It's a very stupid way to argue, this penis measurement stuff.