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3 Sex offenders at the same address ???

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2009 06:18 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

aidan wrote:
what would they say about parents who looked at everyone in their chilren's lives with suspicion?


at least they'd be keeping a closer eye on the people who are most likely to be dangerous to their children.
I am reminded of discussion with my own mother,
when I was a kid, of maybe around 9 or 10 about what other people
will think, I said, earnestly: "I don't give a damn what anyone thinks.
I care what people DO, but not what thay think."

I have since modified that philosophy somewhat,
but the basic point remains: what the hell DIFFERENCE does it make
what anyone thinks about how u LOOK at someone ?
I reserve the right to gaze upon anyone and everyone any way that I please.
Altho I don 't have any kids around, I observe strict scrutiny
of strangers around, to make sure that thay don 't steal anything.
I coud not posssibly care less about what thay think about that.

Altho, admittedly, I don t always go around suspecting things,
as a matter of general philosophy:
I recommend to everyone that no one trust anyone else.
Its just not a good practice and shoud be kept to a minimum.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 30 Sep, 2009 07:27 am
@dlowan,
dlowan wrote:

ehBeth wrote:

aidan wrote:
what would they say about parents who looked at everyone in their chilren's lives with suspicion?


at least they'd be keeping a closer eye on the people who are most likely to be dangerous to their children.



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But there, indeed, is the rub.

And what makes all of this so ferking complicated.

Who, indeed, wants to go around being suspicious the hell of everyone?

Some teachers and child care workers now feel afraid of giving little kids a hug when they are hurt or distressed.

Some people don't WANT male little kid teachers or child care workers, robbing kids
who don't have a decent male role model in their lives of a great opportunity.
I don 't quite get that, Dlowan: "robbing" kids ?
a great opportunity for what ?


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It's a damn fine balance between letting your kid feel confident,
with reasonable precaution and protecting them within reason.
I woud have thought that whether a kid, or anyone,
feels confident is up to him? Yes ?


Quote:

Fact is, you CAN'T protect your kids beyond a certain degree.

Not just from sexual predators, but from death and injury
and terminal illness and all the other things that sexual abuse often takes focus from.
This is very true.


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And, the thing also is that the better your own boundaries and your ability to sense
when boundaries are being breached by daddy or dear old Uncle Bill,
or the lovely new partner you have, or the Girl Guides leader,
the better you will be able to protect your kids.
I am reminded of an incident wherein I found some humor
when I was 10, as a result of the attentions of my dear old Uncle Bill.
He had the prestige of being considered the unofficial head of the family,
by my mother and aunt, having been like a father figure to them.
He was wealthier than we were.

95% of the time, he was polite, but on unpredictable occasions,
he barked at me, things like: "don 't argue with your mother"
or scornfully that I 'd make a good lawyer. He was GROUCHY.
It was annoying.
Once, he called and invited us to go with him to a swimming pool.
This was in Arizona, so it was HOT; therefore, going to a pool
had a good rationale, but he went on to tell my mother
that I need not put on my swimming trunks (under my jeans)
until we arrive at his house, to avoid my being uncomfortable.

When I was informed, I thought: "what the hell is THIS ?"
I don 't claim to be a mind reader, but I intuited that he desired
to check out the kid. Ordinarily, I woud not give a rat 's ass about that,
but in this case, it was my only available opportunity to avenge myself
upon my Uncle Bill for his years of slights, so I disregarded his instructions,
put on my bathing suit under my dungarees anyway
and when he had me join him in his bedroom to change into our bathing suits, I delighted myself in his frustration.




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OmSigDAVID
 
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Fri 2 Oct, 2009 02:34 pm
aidan wrote:

Quote:
It was with some of these considerations in mind
(not including the cleaning fluid -- I was never tempted)
that from the age of 8 on up I carried at least one .38 caliber
Smith & Wesson Model 36 Revolver, until some years later,
I upgraded to a .44, after the stopping power of .38s was impugned

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I was never tempted by cleaning fluid either.
My thing was the flintstone vitamins up in the cabinet out of my reach.
Every time my mom would head out to the garden,
I'd climb up on a stool and grab a few- she only ever let me have one at a time.
Frugal.


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David - were you taught to be suspicious and wary of everyone
or were you just naturally suspicious and wary of everyone
to the point you felt you needed to carry protection on your person at all times?
Well, Rebecca, there were 2 distinct
experiences and decisions concerning protection:
we went to Arizona when I was 8. We moved into a good neighborhood.
In the 5 years that we lived there, the police never showed up
with lights and sirens; there were no complaints of crime
(with good reason: almost everyone was well armed in the neighborhood
and any violent criminal woud have been shot; that was obvious at the time and place).

My family owned some furniture stores, to whose administration
my parents' attention was committed 6 days a week until around 9 PM.
At home, I felt mildly ill-at-ease, wondering how I coud defend
the place if that ever became necessary. The best I had was a kitchen knife; not much.
I chanced to win a small framed .38 caliber Smith & Wesson Model 36 Revolver,
whose possession supported a sense of tranquility.
So the answer to your question is that no one taught me to feel insecure.
That came sua sponte, until I acquired a means of self defense.

3 years later, while in California, against my better judgment:
I left some of my property unguarded, having been enticed
into misplaced trust that it woud not be stolen by another kid.
Its theft was a cheap tuition for the permanent lesson
that u shoud not trust anyone with more than u r willing to lose.





David
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dlowan
 
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Sun 18 Oct, 2009 11:13 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Robert (hoping you see this)...do you recall on a paedophile thread somewhere a while ago you spoke of research supporting a view of some paedophilia as being genetic?

We were discussing that at work today, and nobody had seen anything supporting such a theory.

Can you recall your research sources for that?

We'd be really interested if you can, and have time to post them.

If not, no probs...
hawkeye10
 
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Sun 18 Oct, 2009 11:40 pm
@dlowan,
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Blanchard, Cantor, and Robichaud (2006) noted about comorbid psychiatric illnesses that, "The theoretical implications are not so clear. Do particular genes or noxious factors in the prenatal environment predispose a male to develop both affective disorders and pedophilia, or do the frustration, danger, and isolation engendered by unacceptable sexual desires"or their occasional furtive satisfaction"lead to anxiety and despair?" [47] They indicated that, because they previously found mothers of pedophiles to be more likely to have undergone psychiatric treatment, [39] the genetic possibility is more likely.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Pedophilia#3.
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dlowan
 
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Sun 18 Oct, 2009 11:46 pm
@dlowan,
(Note to self: http://www.safenz.org.nz/Articles/paedos.htm )
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Robert Gentel
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2009 11:01 am
@dlowan,
As far as I know, there is no conclusive evidence of a genetic component to pedophilia, but there have been studies showing familial transmission (but without being able to conclude whether it was genetic or cultural).


There have also been studies that largely discounted the abused-to-abuser cycle theory (or at least show that it's not nearly as prevalent as popular culture would lead one to believe), and studies that show possibilities of neurobiological*, as opposed to psychosocial, causes but as far as I know there is no conclusive evidence for any cause in either the nature or nurture theories.


* Brain Pathology in Pedophilic Offenders - Evidence of Volume Reduction in the Right Amygdala and Related Diencephalic Structures, Cerebral white matter deficiencies in pedophilic men.

For a good overview (spoiler: it's inconclusive) of biological factors the section called "Biological factors in the development of sexual deviance and aggression in males" from The Juvenile Sex Offender, Second Edition (link to Google books excerpt) lists several of the studies from hormonal theories to IQ etc.
dlowan
 
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Mon 19 Oct, 2009 03:38 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Cool, thanks.

I think the article I found is a good compendium of what's around, too.
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dlowan
 
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Mon 30 Nov, 2009 08:27 am
@Robert Gentel,
Quote:
For a good overview (spoiler: it's inconclusive) of biological factors the section called "Biological factors in the development of sexual deviance and aggression in males" from The Juvenile Sex Offender, Second Edition (link to Google books excerpt) lists several of the studies from hormonal theories to IQ etc.


Hey....I bought this book, and am finding it very useful....not particularly re the issue I asked about, but generally.

Great summary of research.

Thank you for bringing it to my attention!!!
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