@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:
Maybe you and I can come to understanding. I'm well aware of aggravated sexual assault, luckily not personally as a legal term, although I did deal with being raped in a situation no one would think of prosecuting, including me in my lawyerly moments. It changed my life but wasn't a legal matter.
I'm thinking that worldwide there isn't this kind of distinction we have about rape - or am I wrong? I know it's bad news in war (some meeting said so) but how about in relationships? It makes me curl, step back,
but I don't know re others across the earth.
Many cultures find it perfectly permissible for men to treat women as property. Were it possible, I'd like to send all the short-eyed assholes to live in one of them... to live as a woman. Prison is the next best thing.
However, once recidivism rears it's ugly head, and it usually does, whatever residual reservations may exist with regards to guilt-certainty can generally be eliminated, and at that point so too should any possibility of further recidivism.
It is in too many cases the demented gift that keeps on giving, from one generation to the next. Better to end the cycle. Too many of the sick bastards can't be cured, and should therefore be regarded as one would regard a rabid dog. No one wants to see old yeller put down, but it is work that needs to be done.
ossobuco wrote:Past all that, what to do with these oafs after they have done time?
Live, work and spend leisure time a safe distance from places kids congregate.
ossobuco wrote:Re the three near the Y, I really don't know. Would be interested in what others think. I am guessing ok, a city has many facilities, do you want to forbid them to all?
Absolutely. I'll vote to protect the safety and innocence of children over the comfort and well being of convicted sickos every time. Were I king, in many cases they’d be wearing GPS enabled anklets (or some less obtrusive, but equally effective device) as a permanent condition of release.
In my opinion, the recidivism of violent aholes (made possible in large part by the relative apathy of society) is most responsible for the creation of more violent aholes. It is the most vicious of all cycles… and one that cannot be effectively altered without prioritizing the protection of innocence far above the perceived fairness in treatment of the guilty.
Btw, I am acutely aware that many criminal proceedings run the risk of convicting the falsely accused. This is no argument against harsher punishments (short of death), because the innocent should be punished not at all… not just less. The false accusation dilemma would be better served with harsher punishments for perpetrators of false accusations. Accusing an innocent of heinous behavior
is heinous, and the those who do so should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. False imprisonment is a serious crime, and I see no reason attempted false imprisonment should be treated as any less seriously.
Please, no one misinterpret the above paragraph as a desire to return to the accusatory laws of the dark ages. The State would still have the burden of proof, as the person accused of attempted false imprisonment by false accusation would be presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt as well. Predictably, in many events there would be insufficient proof of either. To further pre-empt empty argument; such practice should have relatively little effect on victims coming forward, as the burden of proof for such an offense is a VERY large hurdle indeed. Frankly, I believe this remedy already exists, but also that it is so seldom (or so softly) used that false accusations have become exceedingly common in divorce and domestic violence situations. That being said, I find the position of not properly addressing crime on the account of potential for false accusations (another crime) to be morally bankrupt. It is the fact finder (usually a jury in contested matters) job to separate fact from fiction, and the Judge and/or prosecutors job to address instances of perjury and false allegations.
The idea of legislating a virtual pass for heinous crimes, on account of the perceived difficulty in prosecuting them is as disgusting as it is absurd... yet more than a few apologists for the heinous perps, right here on A2K, have advocated precisely that. These are the people I would most like to see self-select for personal extinction, because they are in all likelihood instrumental in perpetuating the most vicious of cycles themselves.
