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WHAT WILL BE THE BUSH LEGACY?

 
 
Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 03:55 pm
Closing The Books On Bush's Legacy

While still in office, President Bush and his allies used to get frustrated when reporters would ask them to speculate on what the administration's legacy would be -- especially in light of the President's abysmal poll numbers at the end of his term. They would defensively argue that Bush's true greatness would emerge over time. "I'll be dead when they get it right," Bush reportedly remarked in 2006. Adviser Karl Rove was convinced that his boss would be "viewed as a far-sighted leader who confronted the key test of the 21st century." Well, they were right in one respect: a fuller picture of the Bush administration's effect is now emerging. But they were sorely mistaken in believing that it would vindicate the 43rd president. Last week, the Census Bureau released its 2008 annual report on the income, poverty, and health insurance in the United States. As the National Journal's Ronald Brownstein wrote, the Census report "closes the books" on Bush's economic record -- and it's not one that Republicans will be boasting about. "On every major measurement, the Census Bureau report shows that the country lost ground during Bush's two terms," noted Brownstein. "While Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more, and the number of Americans without health insurance spiked."

LOSS OF INCOME: "I think when people take a look back at this moment in our economic history, they'll recognize tax cuts work," Bush boldly predicted in a speech to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in March 2008. "They have made a difference." They have indeed made a difference, but it's not a good one. Last year, Americans' median household income dropped 3.6 percent to $50,303 -- the sharpest drop since the government began keeping records in 1947, and the lowest dollar level since 1997. When Clinton left office, the median income was 4.2 percent higher than it was when Bush stepped down eight years later. Bush also has the "dubious distinction" of being the only recent president to "preside over an income decline through two presidential terms," according to Economic Policy Institute President Lawrence Mishel. "[T]he bleak economic results from Bush's two terms, tarnish, to put it mildly, the idea that tax cuts represent an economic silver bullet," concluded Brownstein. Americans were able to see the effects of Bush's sordid legacy long before the President was; toward the end of his term, one poll found that zero percent of Americans believed that the economy was improving, and only 17 percent approved of how he was handling the economy. There's increasing evidence that Bush didn't understand the complexities of the economy. A new book by former speechwriter Matt Latimer reveals that Bush advisers were more interested in "mapping out an ambitious schedule of 'legacy speeches'" for the President than providing policy solutions. Even when the President was selling his $700-billion bailout proposal to the public, he didn't fully comprehend what he was talking about. For nearly a year after the economic downturn started, Bush administration officials continued to publicly state that there was no recession.

RISE IN POVERTY: When the extent of the recession did become clear at the end of Bush's term, the President was convinced that it wasn't his fault. Rove still believes that the administration bears "no responsibility" for the deficit, and Vice President Cheney said in January that the financial crisis had developed only "over the last six months." Bush similarly had no understanding of what most Americans were going through, embodied in his infamous statement to a woman who had to work three jobs to get by: "You work three jobs? Uniquely American, isn't it? That is fantastic." Under Clinton, the number of American in poverty dropped 16.9 percent; it increased 26.1 percent under Bush. Similarly, the number of children in poverty declined 24.2 percent under Clinton and jumped 21.4 percent under Bush. The 2008 poverty rate was at an 11-year high of 13.2 percent, with 39.8 million people in poverty (including 14 million children). The Bush years saw an additional 8.3 million people fall below the poverty line. As The Wonk Room's Pat Garofalo noted, "This [Census] report does not take into account the hemorrhaging of jobs that occurred in early 2009, when more than 700,000 jobs were disappearing each month, so these numbers are likely to rise even higher. And they would be headed higher still if it were not for the economic stimulus package that was passed in February." A new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds that two-thirds of Americans blame Bush -- not President Obama -- for the nation's current economic problems.

RISE IN THE UNINSURED: While Obama has made reducing health care costs and insuring more Americans a focus of his presidency, Bush's health care policies were mostly spending cuts and the advancement of a right-wing ideology. Bush didn't veto many bills during his presidency, but he did decide that expanding health insurance (SCHIP) for children was offensive enough to warrant one. Not surprisingly, by the time Bush left office, the number of uninsured Americans had grown to more than 46.3 million, an increase of 20.6 percent from when Clinton stepped down. The number of uninsured Americans increased by 7.3 million over the eight years of the Bush administration. Despite right-wing claims that public health programs are "inefficient rationed care" and America doesn't need health care reform, number of Americans with individual and employer-sponsored private coverage decreased under Bush, while enrollments for Medicare, Medicaid, and SCHIP grew. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) called the new Census report "another call to action for change in our health insurance system," adding, "In a nation where more than 46 million people go without health insurance -- and the number of uninsured rises by the day -- reform is no longer just an overdue priority, it's an economic and moral necessity."

--americanprogressaction.org
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 04:42 pm
His many writings will be studied by scholars for years to come. The Bush library will be required to be designed with special environmental conditions in order to protect against the disintegration of all the sulphitic papers associated with comic books.
Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 04:48 pm
@farmerman,
I am pretty certain that the Bush Library has special equipment to safeguard the Bush papers. Certainly the coloring books will require state-of-the-art equipment, as well as great expertise.
snood
 
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Reply Wed 16 Sep, 2009 05:22 pm
But let's never forget, it was G.W.Bush who had the foresight to ask the immortal question:

"Is our children learning?"
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 11:44 am
Sorry folks. Bush will have a grand legacy, since his administration had the emergence of the neo-cons and their perceptions of the world. The game is still afoot, to reference Sherlock Holmes. Also, his legacy might be positively remembered in other countries, better than in this country. So, the history books might be written for a wider audience than the U.S. liberal.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 11:59 am
@Foofie,
Quote:
his legacy might be positively remembered in other countries, better than in this country. So, the history books might be written for a wider audience than the U.S. liberal.


I aspirated my tea from laughing. Im gonna sue for inadvertant use of humor.
Gargamel
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 12:12 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

I am pretty certain that the Bush Library has special equipment to safeguard the Bush papers. Certainly the coloring books will require state-of-the-art equipment, as well as great expertise.


I'm curious to know, though, how the scratch n' sniff books' scents will be preserved, the adhesives in the sticker books kept strong, and the 3-D cardstock illustrations in the pop-up books maintained.
jcboy
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 02:13 pm
@Gargamel,
What he would like his legacy to be and what it actually will be is two different things.

I say the biggest imbecile in the WH.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 02:37 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Sorry folks. Bush will have a grand legacy, since his administration had the emergence of the neo-cons and their perceptions of the world. The game is still afoot, to reference Sherlock Holmes. Also, his legacy might be positively remembered in other countries, better than in this country. So, the history books might be written for a wider audience than the U.S. liberal.


You know, Jerry Lewis is considered a comedic genius in France. Similarly, I can imagine that there is some country on this globe in which the people think that Bush was a great leader.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 02:40 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Sorry folks. Bush will have a grand legacy, since his administration had the emergence of the neo-cons and their perceptions of the world. The game is still afoot, to reference Sherlock Holmes. Also, his legacy might be positively remembered in other countries, better than in this country. So, the history books might be written for a wider audience than the U.S. liberal.


Hmm, it's odd. It's like you don't understand, that the NeoCons are a laughing-stock outside of the Jewish community - the group they were specifically created to protect and advocate for.

Cycloptichorn
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 02:46 pm
In the end, even many conservatives had to disavow Bush. It was self preservation prompting them to do so.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 17 Sep, 2009 02:48 pm
@edgarblythe,
McCains entire presidential campaign was predicated on a credo of "Real Change"
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Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 09:33 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Foofie wrote:

Sorry folks. Bush will have a grand legacy, since his administration had the emergence of the neo-cons and their perceptions of the world. The game is still afoot, to reference Sherlock Holmes. Also, his legacy might be positively remembered in other countries, better than in this country. So, the history books might be written for a wider audience than the U.S. liberal.


Hmm, it's odd. It's like you don't understand, that the NeoCons are a laughing-stock outside of the Jewish community - the group they were specifically created to protect and advocate for.

Cycloptichorn


No. No. "The Jews" are used as a diversionary tactic. The real reason is elsewhere. Follow the military/industrial money trail. I thought you had the insight, and independence of thought, to not be fooled by the old "scapegoat the Jews" trick. But, then again we know how advanced Germany was in the early 20th century. They still fell for the trick.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 09:47 am
@Foofie,
Quote:

No. No. "The Jews" are used as a diversionary tactic. The real reason is elsewhere. Follow the military/industrial money trail. I thought you had the insight, and independence of thought, to not be fooled by the old "scapegoat the Jews" trick. But, then again we know how advanced Germany was in the early 20th century. They still fell for the trick.


Don't be dense. That isn't a 'diversion,' it's the entire point. If the real reason was military/industrial complex money based, we'd just call them Republicans.

Cyclotpichorn
Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 09:53 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:

No. No. "The Jews" are used as a diversionary tactic. The real reason is elsewhere. Follow the military/industrial money trail. I thought you had the insight, and independence of thought, to not be fooled by the old "scapegoat the Jews" trick. But, then again we know how advanced Germany was in the early 20th century. They still fell for the trick.


Don't be dense. That isn't a 'diversion,' it's the entire point. If the real reason was military/industrial complex money based, we'd just call them Republicans.

Cyclotpichorn


I should not be "dense"? Do you not see that the Republicans are covering their tracks with the old scapegoat the Jew trick?

Considering the economy in California is based on (besides agriculture) the aircraft industry and Hollywood, one might think a Californian would not spit where he eats?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 09:58 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:

No. No. "The Jews" are used as a diversionary tactic. The real reason is elsewhere. Follow the military/industrial money trail. I thought you had the insight, and independence of thought, to not be fooled by the old "scapegoat the Jews" trick. But, then again we know how advanced Germany was in the early 20th century. They still fell for the trick.


Don't be dense. That isn't a 'diversion,' it's the entire point. If the real reason was military/industrial complex money based, we'd just call them Republicans.

Cyclotpichorn


I should not be "dense"? Do you not see that the Republicans are covering their tracks with the old scapegoat the Jew trick?

Considering the economy in California is based on (besides agriculture) the aircraft industry and Hollywood, one might think a Californian would not spit where he eats?


I wonder if you even know the roots of Neo-Conservatism. You seem to think that it sprang up amongst a bunch of Conservatives. It did not.

From Wikipedia -

Quote:
Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United States of America, and which supports using American economic and military power to bring liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries.[1][2][3] In economics, unlike traditionalist conservatives, neoconservatives are generally comfortable with a welfare state; and, while rhetorically supportive of free markets, they are willing to interfere for overriding social purposes.[4]

The term neoconservative was used at one time as a criticism against proponents of American modern liberalism who had "moved to the right".[5][6] Michael Harrington, a democratic socialist, coined the current sense of the term neoconservative in a 1973 Dissent magazine article concerning welfare policy.[7] According to E. J. Dionne, the nascent neoconservatives were driven by "the notion that liberalism" had failed and "no longer knew what it was talking about."[8] The term "neoconservative" was the subject of increased media coverage during the presidency of George W. Bush.[9][10] with particular focus on a perceived neoconservative influence on American foreign policy, as part of the Bush Doctrine.[11]

The first major neoconservative to embrace the term, Irving Kristol, is considered a founder of the neoconservative movement. Kristol wrote of his neoconservative views in the 1979 article "Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed 'Neoconservative.'"[5] His ideas have been influential since the 1950s, when he co-founded and edited Encounter magazine.[12] Another source was Norman Podhoretz, editor of Commentary magazine from 1960 to 1995. By 1982 Podhoretz was calling himself a neoconservative, in a New York Times Magazine article titled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy".[13][14] Kristol's son, William Kristol, founded the neoconservative Project for the New American Century.


It was founded by Jews who were in most ways liberal, but wanted to be forceful in defense of Israel. It wasn't an outcropping of Republicanism or some way for them to blame their excesses on the Jews Rolling Eyes

Cycloptichorn
Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 10:48 am
The economist.com provides a fairly lengthy and excellent discussion of Bush's legacy. It is not a pretty picture.

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12931660
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 12:41 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
his legacy might be positively remembered in other countries, better than in this country. So, the history books might be written for a wider audience than the U.S. liberal.


I aspirated my tea from laughing. Im gonna sue for inadvertant use of humor.


I think we should all file that as a class action.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 12:47 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:

Considering the economy in California is based on (besides agriculture) the aircraft industry and Hollywood, one might think a Californian would not spit where he eats?


Also, I wanted to respond directly to this.

Are you saying, that b/c the Jewish community is a large part of California's economy, I should keep my mouth shut about anything having to do with them?

The only proper response to this is: **** that noise. And you should question why you would even say such a thing.

Cycloptichorn
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 18 Sep, 2009 01:05 pm
The Bush lagacy: Some doofless jerk dodging a pair of shoes.
 

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