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NEW AL GORE TV HOPES TO AVOID 'LIBERAL' LABEL

 
 
Reply Mon 13 Oct, 2003 12:57 pm
NEW AL GORE TV HOPES TO AVOID 'LIBERAL' LABEL
Cable Network Will Aim at 'Younger, Hipper' Audience
October 13, 2003 - By Richard Linnett

NEW YORK (AdAge.com) -- Former vice president Al Gore and a group of investors have plans to launch an all-news channel, but it won't be a liberal alternative to Fox News. Instead, it will be aimed at the under-25 crowd.

"Liberal TV is dead on arrival," said an insider advising Mr. Gore and his team. "You just can't do it."

NBC agreement: The Gore-led group of investors is about two weeks away from forming an agreement with Vivendi Universal Entertainment to acquire Canadian-based cable network Newsworld International for about $70 million, said an insider at Universal Television Networks, the Vivendi unit that currently operates the network.

The proposed news network will be positioned as "a professional news operation reaching an aware, younger, hipper audience," the adviser said, characterizing it as a combination of CNN and MTV. "The station will try to reach a younger market."

That's likely to make it more enticing to advertisers who were wary of plunking down ads on a network aligned with a particular political party.

Fragmented youth media: "The question is whether TV is the way young people will get their news or whether it will come to them over the Internet, on some form of PDA with just headlines, scores, stock market and breaking news," said Aaron Cohen, executive vice president and director of broadcast at Horizon Media. "If you want to talk to young people, that's where you go. They haven't grown up to be news viewers yet."

In order to attract the right kind of audience, Mr. Cohen said the network would "have to have some truly unique personalities, a unique skew on the news, lifestyle stuff."

50 million subscribers: Newsworld International, created by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in 1994, has 20 million subscribers and 58 employees. Its news programming originates in North America, Asia and Europe. It was sold to USA Networks in 2000, and then to Vivendi Universal, which sells advertising for the channel through its Universal Television Networks sales force, which also handles SciFi, Trio and USA. According to a sales executive there, the majority of advertising on NWI is direct response. "We haven't been aggressively selling it," said the executive. "We're waiting for distribution to pick up." Advertisers include General Motors Corp., Expedia.com, and package-goods companies.

Last week, General Electric Co., parent of NBC, agreed to buy the entertainment properties of Vivendi Universal. GE will own 80% of the new company, while Vivendi retains 20%. Vivendi's TV properties, which include USA Network, Sci Fi and Trio, will combine with NBC's Bravo, Telemundo, MSNBC and CNBC. NBC Universal, will be the fourth-largest media conglomerate, with revenues of approximately $13 billion, when the deal is finalized in early 2004.

A Gore 'firewall'?: Some observers feel that despite the change in tack, a network led by Mr. Gore will not be able to erect a firewall thick enough to insulate it from his Democratic Party affiliation.

"If there is any transparency to Gore, then it will be identified as a partisan operation, which will alienate advertisers," said the sales executive.

"The problem with being associated as liberal is that they wouldn't be going in a direction that advertisers are really interested in," said Paul Rittenberg, senior VP-advertising and market research, Fox News. "We don't get business for being conservative, we get business because the ratings are good and we believe that we're fair. If you go out and say that you are a liberal network, you are cutting your potential audience and certainly your potential advertising pool, right off the bat. "
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jespah
 
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Reply Mon 13 Oct, 2003 02:41 pm
<to the tune of Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing">

I want my Al TV ....

Now look at them yo-yos
that's the way you do it
you hit the networks with the Al TV
that ain't pol'tickin'
that's the way you do it
lemme tell ya
them guys ain't dumb
maybe wear some earth tones
or talk about the 'net
maybe tell us where they're comin' from....

etc. etc. Think Sting is available?
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 13 Oct, 2003 05:33 pm
Jes
Jes, just what we need. Another network that programs for the under 25 age as if there were not already enough.

BBB
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jespah
 
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Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 11:29 am
Yes, they're just SO bereft of programming.

'Course if they REALLY want to appeal to the younger folk, they'll use tried and true methods:

Al the Vampire Slayer
Gore's Creek
Who wants to marry a Politician?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 12:54 pm
From insider buzz ... well, not really "Insider" so much as trade press, I gather the prospects of this "Revolutionary New Concept in Broadcasting" trend toward a market presence somewhere between shopping channels and televangelists, if even that isn't shooting a bit high. Response from potential advertisers has been tepid at best, ranging from "Wait and see" to "Shee-yit, son, that ain't gonna sell ... whutinhell y'all thinkin'?"
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Brand X
 
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Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 01:05 pm
It'll make it as far as Phil Donahue's second go, and the magnificantly popular Democratic Talk Radio. Rolling Eyes
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 01:09 pm
Interesting that the Dems feel a need to find a better way to bring their message to the people. I sense no matter how they package that message, the people just aren't much interested in taking it off the shelf and hauling it to the checkout line.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Tue 14 Oct, 2003 01:48 pm
Another reason Dean isn't it.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2003 09:12 am
Al Gore Wants His VTV
October 15, 2003|9:07 AM
Al Gore Wants His VTV
by Joe Hagan

As former Vice President Al Gore edges toward mini-media-moguldom, press sources quoted his partners this week as saying that Mr. Gore would go younger, not leftier?-and now, if his plans work, The Observer has learned, Mr. Gore's news channel could be … VTV.

V for victory, V for Vice President, V for Vermont, which Mr. Gore won by 30,000 votes in 2000.

In April, Mr. Gore's principle business partner, Joel Hyatt, purchased a Web site called V.tv from The .tv Corporation, which supplies .tv domain extensions to customers like TBS, the Lifetime Channel and PAX. The company's Web site lists Mr. Hyatt as V.tv's administrative contact and as a representative of INDTV, L.L.C., located in Stanford, Calif., where Mr. Hyatt teaches business at Stanford University. An industry source confirmed that INDTV is the working incorporated name of Mr. Gore and Mr. Hyatt's TV project, which has been characterized in press reports as either a news network for the reality-TV generation or a liberal answer to Fox News, or both.

As of this writing, V.tv has not yet been activated.

According to the .tv Web site, the price of a fancy one-character domain name is $10,000. Mr. Hyatt didn't return calls seeking comment, so it's hard to know what the V in VTV stands for. One can only visualize Winston Churchill?-or John Lennon?-holding up two fingers.

If VTV sounds like that other three-lettered channel so beloved by the Oxy Cream generation, that's no coincidence. Mr. Gore's channel will reportedly be geared toward the young Democrats of tomorrow, who can relate to Mr. Gore's fixation with the Internet and hand-held digital-video cameras (V for va-va-video!). Mr. Gore was a fan of MTV's late-90's video-diary show, Unfiltered, and met with the show's producer earlier this year to talk about similar programming concepts.

With that in mind, The Observer called up a few members of the potential consumers in VTV's future target audience to see if they'd ever flip to a channel that aired "edgy" 24-hour news about, say, Iraq and file-sharing and those bad, bad Fox News commentators.

"Yeah, I'd be interested," said Jimmy Jung, a 23-year-old advertising assistant. "I'd be curious. I don't know if I'd check it out all the time, but probably."

Mr. Jung assumed that, if Mr. Gore was involved, it would be "liberal-slanted media." In fact, Mr. Gore's name had to be considered, even if the respondents were fond of the idea.

"I'd be hesitant, because it's being operated by former Vice President Al Gore," said Sarah Lewitinn, a 23-year-old assistant editor at Spin magazine whose friends call her "Ultragrrrl." "But at the same time, it's cool that he's trying to bring current affairs to the young. I think people get their information from MTV anyway, so here's a network for them, which is kind of smart. I know a lot of people in my age group are really unaware of what's going on in the world. They know more about the new Strokes album than what is going on in Iran and Iraq and Syria."

She said it would have to be something with a sense of humor, like The Daily Show, to work. But Elliot Aronow, 23, a public-relations assistant, said it needed to have some gravity. "It depends how seriously they took themselves and how much they gave young people an opportunity to report what they see," he said. "I think young people need to be informed, but not pandered to with all sorts of jump-cut, MTV-style editing. On the other hand, I do believe that most conventional news is totally disconnected from most young people."

Karen Ruttner, a 22-year-old intern at a music-booking agency, gave The Observer the bottom line: "The truth is, when it comes to important news, I don't really care what people my age think. I'd rather hear the professional opinions of, like, seasoned news vets?-people who know history and can really be comforting."

Josh Rosenblatt, 20, a student, said he had actually worked on Mr. Gore's Presidential campaign in the former Vice President's home state of Tennessee in 2000?-and even he wasn't too sure about Mr. Gore's new thing.

"I like him as a person and as a candidate, but I don't know how much I trust him with TV," he said. "I just think, for the average 18-to-21-year-old or whatever they're aiming for, you can't fool them into liking politics. At the end of the day, they have to compete with The Daily Show."

But what do the seasoned professionals think of it?

"I think there's a market for it, but a small market," said Jim Murphy, the executive producer of the CBS Evening News. "How are they going to engage people? Personality? Smarts? You can do it by being hip, but news is not a hip thing. College-age kids and kids in their 20's are interested in what's going on, but it doesn't mean they want to consume news. Can you make them feel young, smart and hip by watching this? Sure. But can you do that with homegrown documentaries? No."

For now, Mr. Gore and his partners are still negotiating the $70 million acquisition of digital-cable network Newsworld International from Vivendi Universal after French-owned Vivendi agreed to merge the rest of its entertainment assets with NBC.

Another unresolved question: Will VTV air reruns of V, the 1980's sci-fi series about rodent-eating aliens who take over the earth? They should! That is, if their deal with Universal isn't Vaporized.

For now, the only place on the tube where you can see the Gore-like Vulcans is on Star Trek: Enterprise. [WWOR, 9, 8 p.m.]
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2003 10:04 pm
Re: NEW AL GORE TV HOPES TO AVOID 'LIBERAL' LABEL
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:

"The problem with being associated as liberal is that they wouldn't be going in a direction that advertisers are really interested in," said Paul Rittenberg, senior VP-advertising and market research, Fox News. "We don't get business for being conservative, we get business because the ratings are good and we believe that we're fair. If you go out and say that you are a liberal network, you are cutting your potential audience and certainly your potential advertising pool, right off the bat. "


Fox News fair? Gimme a break to barf, please!

I don't think Mr. Gore will try to invent a "liberal" Fox News version for the youth of America.

Liberals not fair? At least we have not yet been the cause of the United States Supreme Court appointing an ultra right-wing Republican as President.

The Fox News exec quoted above is a bit dumb, to say the very least.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2003 11:11 pm
C'mon, now, williamhenry; you don't like Fox because it doesn't bleat the liberal line. and has come from nowhere to challenge and surpass the ratings and advertiser-appeal of The Big Three and PBS. What is fair is that in a fair market, folks can choose. Just because your choice is not satisfying the greater public demand makes neither choice more nor less fair, it simply means fewer folk join you in your choice. If Gore and crew can offer the public something the public will endorse and support, fair enough; the venture will prosper. If the public is uninterested, the venture will fail to prosper. Given that the venture is a Democrat-oriented initiative, I anticipate, in all fairness, it will meet with no more success than Democrat efforts have gained themselves recently in either the electoral or judicial arenas. While the Democrats may provide entertainment, they aren't going to be able to sell it, any more than they've been able to sell their agenda. What is fair is that everyone has equal opportunity to succeed. What is fair is that the Democrats be permitted to choose to do otherwise. Clearly, nobody is preventing them from doing so.

What is dumb is to continue a consistently failed course of action in expectation of improved results. What is dumber yet is to then sue to attempt to reverse the disadvantage one's own shortcomings brought about.
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williamhenry3
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2003 10:18 pm
timberlandko wrote:
What is fair is that in a fair market, folks can choose. Just because your choice is not satisfying the greater public demand makes neither choice more nor less fair, it simply means fewer folk join you in your choice.[/I]

Timber<

Were you to know me better, you would know that I don't care what other people think about me. I have never claimed to be a member of the "greater public." That's because those who are the "greater public" choose outlets like FoxNews which is fine if you like tabloid-style, right-leaning reportage.
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