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OK; LET's TURN IT AROUND THE OTHER WAY . . . .

 
 
Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 08:38 am

In an earlier thread, I considered the wisdom and justice of killing
bad fellows who had caused murderers, etc. There were some objections,
some of which may have been rational.

http://able2know.org/topic/135198-1

Turning it around the other way,
if I coud travel back in time, I woud warn George Washington
to remain indoors at Mt. Vernon on December 12, 1799;
(he perished from the effects of exposure to inclement weather and medical mistakes)
and I 'd warn another American war hero, General Nathanael Greene,
to do the same on June 19, 1786; (he perished from sunstroke from overwork).

Any objections ?





David
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 08:50 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


In an earlier thread, I considered the wisdom and justice of killing
bad fellows who had caused murderers, etc. There were some objections,
some of which may have been rational.

http://able2know.org/topic/135198-1

Turning it around the other way,
if I coud travel back in time, I woud warn George Washington
to remain indoors at Mt. Vernon on December 12, 1799;
(he perished from the effects of exposure to inclement weather and medical mistakes)
and I 'd warn another American war hero, General Nathanael Greene,
to do the same on June 19, 1786; (he perished from sunstroke from overwork).

Any objections ?





David


They wouldn't heed your warnings, b/c they both died on those days. You can only change stuff which you have already changed...

Cycloptichorn
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:11 am
@OmSigDAVID,
If you ignore the concept that changes in the past change the current, then sure, save everyone. If you think that saving these people will change the current, then I think you are risking millions to protect someone from his own errors.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:15 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:


In an earlier thread, I considered the wisdom and justice of killing
bad fellows who had caused murderers, etc. There were some objections,
some of which may have been rational.

http://able2know.org/topic/135198-1

Turning it around the other way,
if I coud travel back in time, I woud warn George Washington
to remain indoors at Mt. Vernon on December 12, 1799;
(he perished from the effects of exposure to inclement weather and medical mistakes)
and I 'd warn another American war hero, General Nathanael Greene,
to do the same on June 19, 1786; (he perished from sunstroke from overwork).

Any objections ?





David


They wouldn't heed your warnings,
b/c they both died on those days. Cycloptichorn

To me,
that seems like a non-sequitur.
I am skeptical that the indicated cause necessarily
woud generate that effect.

Let 's consider it this way:
suppose that, true to my greedy nature,
I used time travel to financially enrich myself b4 anything else.

Then I go back to the early days, or middle times
of the American Revolution, when George Washington
was in dire financial need of cash to pay his army.
If I showed up with 20 pounds of gold in hand
and offered him the loan thereof on condition
that he remain indoors on December 12, 1799,
I suspect that he 'd look favorably upon the deal
and that he 'd be honorable enuf to keep his word,
thereby defeating the cause of his death.

I have had occasion to sit on his back porch,
looking down upon the Potomac River.
Its a very pleasant aspect; he deserved to enjoy it longer.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:18 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

If you ignore the concept that changes in the past change the current,
then sure, save everyone. If you think that saving these people
will change the current, then I think you are risking millions to protect someone from his own errors.
Understood.
Your logic is correct.





David
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djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:25 am
using the knowledge i have now, i would go back to a local festival on a hot august weekend about 15 years ago, and have sex with diana, instead of not having sex with sandy
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:31 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
In an earlier thread, I considered the wisdom and justice of killing bad fellows who had caused murderers, etc. There were some objections, some of which may have been rational.

I think that invoking a fantasy scenario as an inverse comparison to a real scenario probably isn't fundamentally valid and won't return a meaningful result.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 09:52 am
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
In an earlier thread, I considered the wisdom and justice of killing bad fellows who had caused murderers, etc. There were some objections, some of which may have been rational.

I think that invoking a fantasy scenario as an inverse comparison to a real scenario probably isn't fundamentally valid and won't return a meaningful result.

The whole thing is idle speculation,
in that I don 't have a time machine; not likely to find one.
Have u a suggestion for improvement ?





David
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 10:02 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
The whole thing is idle speculation,
in that I don 't have a time machine; not likely to find one.
Have u a suggestion for improvement ?

If your only goal is speculative entertainment, then you should be all set Smile
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2009 12:01 pm
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
The whole thing is idle speculation,
in that I don 't have a time machine; not likely to find one.
Have u a suggestion for improvement ?

If your only goal is speculative entertainment, then you should be all set Smile

That 's about 98% of all that we do on this forum; yes ?

U thawt I was jamming my luggage into the trunk of my time machine ?





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