Infrasound weapons

Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 02:52 am
Does anyone know when theearliest instance of Infrasound being used or even considered as a weapon would be? I'm aware that in the 1950s, experiments were being conducted by a man named Gavreau, but I'm curious if there is research on this which pre dates the 1950s.
  • Topic Stats
  • Top Replies
  • Link to this Topic
Type: Question • Score: 0 • Views: 4,569 • Replies: 3
No top replies

Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 02:59 am
I still hear of experiments from time to time, but haven't heard of any of them in service. The latest involved light and sound frequencies (not infrasound) that the human mind simply can't process. That's also not yet in service.

Keep in mind that employees of defense contractors have jobs till the current contract expires. Then, it's root hog, or die. Meaning, someone has to dream up a new project, and sell it to DOD, or bid into an existing project.
Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 08:02 am
Was there not new stories of some form of a sound weapon being used by a cruise ship under attack by pirates a few years back?

See below I love the internet


Long Range Acoustic Device
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

The LRAD is the round black device on top of the New York City police Hummer.The Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD) is a crowd-control and hailing device developed by American Technology Corporation.

According to the manufacturer's specifications, the equipment weighs 45 pounds (20 kg) and can emit sound in a 30° beam (only at high frequency, 2.5 kHz) from a device 83 centimetres (33 in) in diameter. At maximum level, it can emit a warning tone that is 146 dBSPL (1,000 W/m²) at 1 metre, a level that is capable of permanently damaging hearing, and higher than the normal human threshold of pain (120"140 dB). The maximum usable design range extends to 300 metres. At 300 metres, the warning tone (measured) is less than 90 dB. The warning tone is a high-pitched shrill tone similar to that of a smoke detector.

There appears to be some disagreement over these specifications, as some have reported measurements that differ from the manufacturer's specifications, and show reduced output with a less directive beam.

It's instructive to note that any loudspeaker of equal size will generate a beam of the same directivity as LRAD. The parameter "ka", which is the wave number multiplied by the speaker radius, is often used to characterize sound source directivity. For this source, ka=19 at 2.5kHz, and according to the LRAD data sheet, the beam angle of about 30 degrees total is precisely what is predicted for a regular loudspeaker.[1] Contrary to some beliefs, the device does not use ultrasound, nor is it a phased array; it uses an array of conventional acoustic tweeters, the same as those used in many professional audio applications, all driven together in parallel.[citation needed] The confusion spawns from a similar product marketed by the same company called the HyperSonic Sound.

Carl Gruenler, (former) vice president of military and government operations for American Technology Corp. (and who now runs a company making a competing device), says that being within 90 metres (98 yd) of the device is extremely painful, but its use should be limited to 270 metres (300 yd) to be effectively used. He concedes that the device is powerful enough to cause permanent auditory damage, but that it is only meant to be used for a few seconds at a time.

Countermeasures may include the use of passive hearing protection (earplugs, headsets), which may bring the sound down to ineffective levels. In addition, sound could be reflected from a solid surface, and redirected back to the originator.

Small spherical "point-source" acoustic devices follow the known inverse square law, which predicts the loss of 6 dB per doubling of distance from the source. Large speakers (or large arrays), such as these mentioned above or those commonly used in concert halls, etc., produce less loss with distance in the nearfield, typically 3-4 dB per doubling of distance from the source. The larger the speaker, and the higher the frequency, the longer the effective nearfield is (see Beranek). Devices like this generally have nearfields of only a few meters.

[edit] Usage

The LRAD in use on a U.S. Navy patrol ship.
LRAD on RMS Queen Mary 2The device was originally intended to be used by American warships to warn incoming vessels approaching without permission, and some reports claim that this is now a "non-lethal weapon". Its output up to 155 db, focused at a distance, is sufficient to produce permanent ear damage and temporarily disrupt vision.[2] It may also be used simply as a very effective megaphone prior to any use as a weapon.

These devices are currently used at Camp Bucca Iraq and are being tested in regions of Baghdad, Fallujah, along with other regions of Iraq. The LRAD device was also used by police in New York City during protests of the 2004 Republican National Convention[3] and in Georgia against opposition protesters in Tbilisi on November 2007 [4][5].

The luxury cruise ship Seabourn Spirit employed an LRAD while repelling pirates who attacked the vessel with RPGs about 160 km off the coast of Somalia in early November 2005.[6] [7] The effectiveness of this device during the attack is not completely clear, but the pirates did not succeed in boarding the vessel and eventually fled.

The Liberian vessel MV Biscaglia was attacked on November 28, 2008. The security detachment aboard Biscaglia used an LRAD device in an effort to repel attackers armed with assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades. Following a one-sided shootout, the ship was seized and the unarmed security contractors forced to abandon ship or be killed.[8] The incident caused the usefulness of LRADs to be called into question by Lloyd's List.[9]

In February 2009, Captain Paul Watson of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society claimed that a Japanese whaling vessel used LRAD to deter attacks from the activists of the conservation ship, the Steve Irwin, backing these claims with photographic evidence. [10]

The magazine Foreign Policy has revealed that LRADs have been sold to the government of the People's Republic of China. American companies have been banned from selling arms to China since the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre, but the LRAD is described by ATC as a “directed-sounds communications system".[11]

[edit] References
^ Beranek, Leo L. 1986. Acoustics, p.132, American Institute of Physics.
^ Sonic Cannon Gives Pirates an Earful
0 Replies
Reply Thu 3 Jun, 2010 08:10 pm
The funny part is during the Nurnberg trials a lot of the Nazi scientists were given immunity in exchange for their future services to the United States Military; at various top secret bases like Groom Lake in Nevada. The technology and knowledge gained from the German scientist’s experiments forever revolutionized American military, space travel, and modern medicine. A giant Paradox.
0 Replies

Related Topics

WIND AND WATER - Discussion by Setanta
Who ordered the construction of the Berlin Wall? - Discussion by Walter Hinteler
True version of Vlad Dracula, 15'th century - Discussion by gungasnake
ONE SMALL STEP . . . - Discussion by Setanta
History of Gun Control - Discussion by gungasnake
Where did our notion of a 'scholar' come from? - Discussion by TuringEquivalent
  1. Forums
  2. » Infrasound weapons
Copyright © 2022 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.04 seconds on 10/07/2022 at 05:55:16