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Conservatives . . . Your life is pointless.

 
 
Setanta
 
Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 03:38 pm
I've always wondered why people that are so adamant about the personal "freedom," debate morals and what is right and wrong. If there is no moral imperative for a social contract, and this world is truly just a capitalist fluke, then your life and everything that happens in it are of no consequence whatsoever. Why not just do whatever you want and not care about others. After all, survival of the fittest is the name of the game right? Love of others is just some accidental emotion that means nothing. So do whatever you want. Your life, your children's life, and your children's children's life will all be over soon and nothing will be remembered.
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 03:48 pm
@Setanta,
I've bean discussing this very subject with David and now come to realize that guns and jelly beans are the very bones of what it means to have freedom.
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 04:53 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.


I have seen the face of God!

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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 06:05 pm
@Setanta,
I lol'd

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Laughing
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Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 06:49 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

I've always wondered why people that are so adamant about the personal "freedom," debate morals and what is right and wrong. If there is no moral imperative for a social contract, and this world is truly just a capitalist fluke, then your life and everything that happens in it are of no consequence whatsoever. Why not just do whatever you want and not care about others. After all, survival of the fittest is the name of the game right? Love of others is just some accidental emotion that means nothing. So do whatever you want. Your life, your children's life, and your children's children's life will all be over soon and nothing will be remembered.


Do you really think that if this nation became a Socialist utopia there would be any more adherence to a social contract than what we now have? I would think the same youth would say their dog ate their homework. The same rate of divorce. The same vices.

To have a viable social contract I believe we need a certain kind of citizen. Sort of like Parochial schools can maintain a certain level of academic achievement, since they do not keep the disruptive student.

Conservatives do not have a pointless life. Their lives are many times dedicated to making sure that the country does not become a socialist utopia where those that cannot even teach gym get to share in the wealth of the society.

NOTE: The above reference to teaching gym comes from Woody Allen's joke: Those that cannot do teach, those that cannot teach teach gym.
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marsz
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 08:25 pm
The morality of socialism can be summed-up in two words: envy and self-sacrifice. Envy is the desire to not only possess another’s wealth but also the desire to see another’s wealth lowered to the level of one’s own. Socialism’s teaching on self-sacrifice was nicely summarized by two of its greatest defenders, Hermann Goering and Bennito Mussolini. The highest principle of Nazism (National Socialism), said Goering, is: "Common good comes before private good." Fascism, said Mussolini, is " a life in which the individual, through the sacrifice of his own private interests…realizes that completely spiritual existence in which his value as a man lies."

Socialism is the social system which institutionalizes envy and self-sacrifice: It is the social system which uses compulsion and the organized violence of the State to expropriate wealth from the producer class for its redistribution to the parasitical class.

http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/onprin/v1n3/thompson.html
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 05:02 am
For the clueless among us (which, apparently, means the conservatives who have responded, including the idiot attempting to claim that the NSDAP was left-wing), this thread is a parody of a long-standing thread, which had nothing to do with politics.

Atheists... Your life is pointless

Compare the opening posts of that thread and this thread. Then call your doctor and see if you can get in and have the irony module installed and get your satire detection system checked.
Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 11:00 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

For the clueless among us (which, apparently, means the conservatives who have responded, including the idiot attempting to claim that the NSDAP was left-wing), this thread is a parody of a long-standing thread, which had nothing to do with politics.

Atheists... Your life is pointless

Compare the opening posts of that thread and this thread. Then call your doctor and see if you can get in and have the irony module installed and get your satire detection system checked.


You are such a card. You have replied on another occasion that readers are not getting your humorous intent. A George Carlin you are not, in my opinion, my dear ex-New Yorker. (Carlin an excellent example of the insightful humor that growing up near Columbia could give one; not to mention his Irish heritage. )
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 6 Aug, 2009 11:31 am
Have i mentioned to you lately, Foof-dog, that you are a f*ckin' idiot?
marsz
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 01:39 am
Readers may decide how many of these points are left wing:

The Party Program of the NSDAP was proclaimed on the 24 February 1920 by Adolf Hitler at the first large Party gathering in Munich and since that day has remained unaltered. Within the national socialist philosophy is summarized in 25 points:

1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the right of self-determination of peoples.

2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population.

4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.

5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.

6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since the 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.

9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.

10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all Consequently we demand:

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.

19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.

20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.

23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that: a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race: b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the German language: c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications, or any influence on them, and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.

24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: common utility precedes individual utility.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 03:25 am
@Setanta,
Irony is wasted on some people. I enjoyed the comparison.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 03:27 am
So did i . . . i'm glad to hear that . . .
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 10:00 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Have i mentioned to you lately, Foof-dog, that you are a f*ckin' idiot?


That is your opinion. Not the opinion of all; perhaps, some. But, I am already aware of your opinion; you are being redundant.

Considering you do like some canines, I would think it was a compliment to refer to me as a Foof-dog. Yes, Foofie was the favorite hunting Spaniel of one of the English kings.
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Francis
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 10:16 am
foofie wrote:
That is your opinion. Not the opinion of all; perhaps, some.


Perhaps and some are euphemisms.

foofie wrote:
Yes, Foofie was the favorite hunting Spaniel of one of the English kings.


You are being redundant and many more times, by far, than you have been called the epithet Setanta used.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 10:48 am
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/umedia/20090808/cp.6bbca51f1dbf8a4abd0ae618c5dbf744.gif
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mismi
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 01:05 pm
@Setanta,
You are in a stinky mood. ((Set)) I think my life has a point . Far be it from me to despair just because the democrats have screwed everything up. Wink You know most of us conservatives will manage to adjust and survive don't you? I think.
Foofie
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 01:33 pm
@mismi,
Conservatives made this a wealthy country. Democrats then decide they have a good plan how to spend the wealth that conservatives generated.

I will not call liberals any names, since they do not really understand, I believe, the error of their ways. It is so sad, those poor dears.
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marsz
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 04:20 pm
And all of the points below which are from the Nazi Party Platform are also found in most left wing Socialist platforms:
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Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 07:17 pm
Am I the only one begining to suspect that this marzs character sounds a helluva lot like massogato and his dozen-plus other recent incarnations?

BTW, Set, your point is lifeless.
mismi
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 07:19 pm
@Merry Andrew,
Quote:
BTW, Set, your point is lifeless.


I dunno bout that...seems to me he fired some folks up. Very Happy
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