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Conservatives . . . Your life is pointless.

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 07:48 pm
@Foofie,
Ah, foofie, I got the point of the thread right away.

I'm not against all conservatives, can see being conservative, in the olden days sense. I say this as a flaming liberal, to use a charged phrase.
There is a Politics type history here - not that I follow all of that. But Setanta's title was, for me, an enjoyable, if momentary, riff, or parody.
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marsz
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 10:42 pm
"In 19209, the Nazi party issued its "unalterable" and "eternal" party platform...Aside from the familiar appeals to Germany for the Germans and denunciation of the Treaty of Versailles, the most striking thing about the platform was its concerned appeal to socialist and populist economics, including providing a livlihood for citizens: abolition of income from interest; the total confiscation of war profits; the nationalization of trusts; shared profits with labor; and "communizalition of department stores"...so, we are supposed to see a party in favor of universal education, guaranteed employment, increased entitlement for the aged, the expropriation of land without compensation; the nationalization of industry; the abolition of marked-based lending--a.k.a. "interest slavery"--the expansion of health services ...as objectively and obviously right wing"

source-"Liberal Fascism"--Jonah Goldberg---_P. 69
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marsz
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 10:45 pm
"Earth Hour"? Why do liberals engage in such pointless gestures?


Following San Francisco's lead, Los Angeles County and city officials are urging people, businesses and government to switch off nonessential lights for one hour next month to save energy.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-

Supposedly turning off all the lights will delay the Earth's doom by limiting the CO2 emitted in the generation of electricity. Breathing also emits CO2. Maybe instead of "Earth Hour" we should try "Earth Minute," where we all save the polar bears by holding our breath?

Beyond the pointless symbolism, the implication is clear. If we want to save the planet, we need to turn out the lights on human civilization and return to the darkness for which liberals seem to long.
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 10:57 pm
@marsz,
Cutting consumption in any way is good, if it's for a minute or an hour. An hour of low lighting in LA, might be the energy equivalent of Wyoming for a full day when you think about it.

I don't see how you benefit from doing contrary to this advice. Why is turning off lights in a room you're not in a liberal thing? Are you saying that conservatives have no interest in saving energy?

I turn the faucet off when I'm brushing my teeth, but I bet a lot of conservatives do too.

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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 11:06 pm
@marsz,
Lighting design has made some progress lately - for example, in changing street lighting so that it doesn't present the usual sky obliterating light cloud; making some/many outdoor lights motion triggered; advances on, yes, incandescent lighting in the home, after other advances in compact fluorescent bulbs.

So, marsz, are you saying all conservatives and libertarians are against advances in lighting efficiency, or don't give a hoot about seeing the stars?
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marsz
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 11:13 pm
More pointless gestures:



This President is not leading, in consequence he is failing, for example as Brooks notes on the stimulus package ’so called’ which was stuffed full of Democratic pork:-

You would have thought that a stimulus package would be designed to fight unemployment and stimulate the economy during a recession. But Congressional Democrats used it as a pretext to pay for $787 billion worth of pet programs with borrowed money. Only 11 percent of the money will be spent by the end of the fiscal year " a triumph of ideology over pragmatism.

So now some are calling for a Stimulus II. Absurdity piled upon absurdity. In addition it is the most protectionist Congress in many years, but this president does little if anything to combat that. No, he wastes his political capital on pointless gestures.

The song is God Bless America, under Obama it should be God Help America and the rest of the world, because as sure as eggs is eggs no one else will, let alone Barack Obama based on performance to date.

http://adamsmith.wordpress.com/2009/07/24/brooks-democrats-suicide-march/
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2009 06:50 am
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:

Cutting consumption in any way is good, if it's for a minute or an hour. An hour of low lighting in LA, might be the energy equivalent of Wyoming for a full day when you think about it.



And, the equivalent of a quarter of a minute of all the factories in China belching out gasses and other assorted pollutants? Do not get me wrong, I think the L.A. residents could benefit from less fluorescent glare; however, it would just be symbolic in its results, I believe.

And, by leaving the water faucet on, while you brush your teeth, you might be persuading some radical in the Middle East to find a better cause (i.e., lack of water) than blaming the U.S. for his ills.
neologist
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 12:12 am
What's wrong with conserving?
I try not to waste anything
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oolongteasup
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 12:59 am
@Setanta,
letsprey
roger
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 01:00 am
@oolongteasup,
Lettuce prey?
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 09:02 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:

Cutting consumption in any way is good, if it's for a minute or an hour. An hour of low lighting in LA, might be the energy equivalent of Wyoming for a full day when you think about it.


And, the equivalent of a quarter of a minute of all the factories in China belching out gasses and other assorted pollutants? Do not get me wrong, I think the L.A. residents could benefit from less fluorescent glare; however, it would just be symbolic in its results, I believe.

Using China as an excuse? That's weak. Even if LA was to do as I say and it's ecological offset proved insignificant to the negative contribution by China, LA will have still saved a great deal of money it could use in different ways. think eco-economics. Dig.

Foofie wrote:

And, by leaving the water faucet on, while you brush your teeth, you might be persuading some radical in the Middle East to find a better cause (i.e., lack of water) than blaming the U.S. for his ills.

This doesn't make any sense.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 10 Oct, 2009 11:52 pm
I think Diest and I have the right idea.

Conservatives should stick to conservation
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