Should the US Army invade Chicago? It's a terrorist safe haven!

Attacking someone for someone that they barely know is beyond idiotic.

If you attack Obama about Ayers why not....

Attack Sarah Palin for the fact that she gave the opening speech for the Alaskan Independence Party's Convention. A party whose only platform is that Alaska should secede from the United States of America. Palin's husband is a card carrying member of the party to this day.

We are, after all, talking about a party founded by a man who said, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." The same man, AIP founder Joe Vogler, also said, "[T]he fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government." And the Palin's family were friends with this man.

Attack Bush for the fact that his grandfather gave millions in loans to Adolf Hitler! http://www.ickypeople.com/2007/12/bush-grandfather-helped-hitler-rise-to.html

Both Vogler and Hitler are a lot less american than William Ayers who was voted "Chicago's Citizen of the Year" for his work in improving public schools.

Let me say that again. William Ayers was Chicago's CITIZEN OF THE YEAR around when he worked on the board with Obama.

Ha. McCain's latest lame deluge with this Ayers thing, fortunately, is not working. Sadly, it's taken this extreme economic climate to get the voting population to wise up.

He's really making himself look like a total nitwit.

As for your arguments on attacking Sarah Palin-- why bother? Her stance in so Jr. High, even the Republicans (in privacy) don't take her seriously.

I have to admit--I am a Chicagoan, and I hate the idea of freedom.

viva la revolution...up the establishment....**** the man... don't bogart that...
are you going to finish that doughnut?

There are lots of good reasons not to live in Chicago. That one for instance...

I'm the last Yippee, man. Just yesterday the police beat my ass outside the Hilton on Michigan and Balbo. The whole world was watching. Totally worth it.

Yep, see my Chicago Politics thread. It's a clusterfuck.

Did they lube up the nightstick for ya?

Um, if that turns you on, then I guess so.

This is only one of many Palin/McCain talking points that has no basis in fact or reason. They jump on anything that sounds "negative" to their party's ears, and run with it. That's the essence of their bad judgment, but conservatives are blind to them. That says more about the "moral majority conservatives" than it does the candidates. They have no brain.

Are you kidding me? Dude, you're even more senile than you think.

ceej, When will you learn that your posts are challenged much more than mine. You and a couple of other "moral majority conservatives" are the only ones who challenge me with ad hominems and strawman retorts.

Background on the "professor" from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers



Hardly the same as the "University of Chicago". The guy teaches at someplace much, much, much more modest, called something completely different, that happens to be located IN Chicago.

He's a specialist in elementary education - dazzling results his alleged expertise have achieved, btw, but never mind demonstrable facts.

Same goes for you, Cicerone, jumping on this idiotic bandwagon and calling it a McCain/Palin error to boot - check the facts first next time, please.

what worries me about america and its citizens is : will you be as dis-united AFTER the election as you are now ?
perhaps living outside the U.S. - about 5 miles as the gull flies across lake onatario - gives me a distorted view .
i can't remember ever seeing such disunity - even hatred - at any time during the last 50 years .
somebody/anybody : please tell me i'm completely wrong .
we've met many americans over the years and always had cordial relations ; had fun together - enjoyed a drink together - just chatted - has something fundamentally changed ?
hbg

Bush had eight years to live by his campaign promise: "I'm a uniter, not a divider." McCain's campaign promises the same.

I actually enjoy reading ceeja's posts, ci. His inanities are so absurd as to be worth at the very least a chuckle. Sometimes even a belly-laugh.

Hamburger - you clearly missed the 1960s and the "civil rights" movement, if you never saw such "disunity" south of the 48th (is it 49th? you would know, though I know it varies near Vancouver) parallel. Glad to see you and family are well, btw

hbg, I suspect that this hostility -- and I agree that it's well nigh unprecedented, in my lifetime, at least -- stems, at least in part, from a deep-seated subconscious feeling of guilt among conservative Republicans. Down deep somewhere, in the subconscious or preconscious mind, they must know that Bush and his gang have been an unmitigated disaster. They further know -- and most have admitted as much on these threads -- that their time in power is over for the forseeable future. The McCain/Palin ticket has about as much chance of being elected as you do of becoming Prime Minister of Canada. This smarts, especially because they can't consciously admit it to themselves. They have to keep on pretending that, somehow, it's not all over, and that the elections of 2000 and '04 were not a terrible mistake. Hence, the vituperativeness of some of the coments by some of the most dyed-in-the-wool neocons on this site.

That's the reason why ceej is not on my list of "ignore." LOL