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Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2012 03:36 pm
Tigers’ Martinez injures knee, out much of 2012

"Tigers star Victor Martinez has injured his left knee and is likely to miss most of the 2012 season. The Tigers said Tuesday that the 33-year-old Martinez tore his left ACL last week during offseason conditioning. An MRI exam Monday in Lakeland, Fla., revealed the injury...."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ajk7Vj0gm6TJaKV.XxTooN4RvLYF?slug=ap-tigers-martinezinjured
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2012 08:50 pm
@Rockhead,

ouch.
crawford similarly messed up his wrist, and will miss some time early recovering from surgery...
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 06:35 am

yeah, good luck with that...

Quote:
Rangers, Yu Darvish reach deal

Japanese ace Yu Darvish will be pitching in a Texas Rangers uniform in 2012, agreeing to a
six-year deal worth approximately $60 million on Wednesday.

According to one source, Darvish can opt out of the final year of the deal if he meets certain
parameters.

Darvish agreed to the deal, which according to a source includes $56 million guaranteed,
just before Wednesday's 5 p.m. ET deadline. The agreement comes 30 days after the Rangers
won the right to negotiate with Darvish and his representatives, Don Nomura and Arn Tellem,
by submitting a record $51.7 million posting bid.
(espn)
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 03:17 pm
Bob Feller once demanded a 25 percent pay cut

In the middle of this arbitration season, we should pause to remember one of the stories that made the late Bob Feller one of baseball's true iconoclasts.

Indeed, on this date in 1950, after a below-average season — probably the worst in his career to that point — Feller took a pay cut of about $20,000 from the Cleveland Indians.

And it was his own suggestion, Indians' GM Hank Greenberg said at the time (via the Wilmington Morning Star):

"You can call this 'a very drastic pay cut.' Feller thinks it's drastic, too. But he himself made the suggestion. In fact, he offered to take more than the 25 per cent maximum pay cut allowed.

"There was absolutely nothing to it. We all agreed quickly on the figure after Bob showed up yesterday."

Yes, the Nolan Ryan of his time demanded a pay cut. Don't even bother imagining this happening today. Feller's agent (which was himself, back in '50) would never allow it. Peer pressure wouldn't allow it. The rules of collective bargaining probably wouldn't even allow it. It might not even occur to him. So there's no way that Bronson Arroyo, who had an NL-worst 5.07 ERA in 2011, ever would walk into the office of Cincinnati Reds owner Bob Castellini and hand over $2.4 million, or 20 percent of his $12,000,000 salary. Same goes with A.J. Burnett and the New York Yankees.

Feller, who died in 2010, obviously was from a different time.

Update: Feller wanted a pay cut again in 1953! The Tribe obliged, but only rolled it back to $38,000.

On the downside of his career because of shoulder injuries, the 31-year-old Feller made about $65,000 in 1949, when he went 15-14 with a 3.75 ERA. In 28 starts and 211 innings, he had 108 strikeouts (after leading the league the season before), 84 walks and 198 hits allowed. Two years earlier, his ERA had been 2.68 and he led the league in strikeouts. In a sentence, Feller's reputation was this: He could throw a no-hitter at any time.

The Indians took advantage of Bob Feller.
The average AL ERA in '49 was 4.20, so Feller still performed better than most, if not dominantly. So going from $65,000 to $45,000 is quite a drop. (In case you're wondering, a $45,000 salary has the buying power of $422,421.16 in today's dollars. Also FYI: The minimum salary in the majors in 2011 was $414,000.)

Feller had no agent, no union and no concept of how much he actually was worth. Only pride. After Feller came to the Indians in a contrite mood, the two sides agreed that Feller would not take attendance bonuses, which had a rider in his contract since 1938. They actually took away his incentives. Even though the Indians continued to draw enormous crowds when Feller pitched, Greenberg made it sound like Feller's pay cut had everything to do with performance:

"You see, over a five-year span, Feller was winning something like 24 games a season and losing very few. In the last two seasons, he averaged about 17 victories and 14 1/2 defeats.

"We couldn't possibly continue paying him that kind of money he has been receiving based on his performance. But if he starts winning the number of games he did in the old days, we'll be delighted to boost him back up again."

Bob Feller did what he did for what he thought were the right reasons, but it's a shame the Indians took advantage of his bruised pride, especially after they appeared to abuse his arm when he was in his 20s. And, as was the case with every other baseball player of the time, they never paid him what he was worth — even when he was the best in the league. Even when he was the highest-paid player in the league.

But, as the contracts of Arroyo, Burnett and others of today show, the next time we have a system that is truly fair to both sides, it will be the first time. Bob Feller should have been a little greedier back in '50. Today's players should demand more of themselves. They should be be a little more like Bob Feller.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/bob-feller-once-demanded-pay-cut-185949119.html;_ylt=AlLPQdKv_iZ3Al90yrLUG5URvLYF
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 05:54 pm
Gary Carter’s health takes turn for worse

The 57-year-old Hall of Fame catcher, diagnosed last May with a malignant brain tumor, received results of his latest MRI exam Thursday, according to the online journal of his daughter, Kimmy Bloemers.

She writes: “I wish I could say that the results were good. … There are now several new spots/tumors on my dad’s brain. I write these words with tears because I am so sad for my dad.”...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AkJIfol3q65JuR75gxqS4AQRvLYF?slug=ap-garycarter
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jan, 2012 02:03 pm
the pitcher formerly known as Fausto Carmona...

He was the second Dominican player arrested in recent months for using a false identity...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-indians-carmonaarrested
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 06:32 pm
Houston is not only changing leagues, they are changing uni's, and maybe even the team name...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AqjjEX79X8fGp5FQuROuwwURvLYF?slug=ap-astros-namechange

"The Astros will also allow fans to bring water and a small amount of food inside the stadium." (I think mebbe they are preparing for a siege...)

I think we at a2k should help them pick one. (I hope I don't offend edgar )

I'll start...

the Houston saddle sores.

or mebbe the Houston hammerheads...
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 06:44 pm
Far out: Was that a marijuana leaf t-shirt that Yu Darvish was sporting today in Texas?

Shocked

"According to Konnichiwhoa, reports out of Japan said the shirt depicts a Japanese maple leaf..."

riiiiiight...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/far-yu-darvish-arrives-america-wearing-shirt-marijuana-022449449.html;_ylt=AkKLbn2QA_KPuSx3FTzSpq8RvLYF
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 06:47 pm
@Rockhead,

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lifjv007nq1qhjskpo1_400.jpg

that's the ticket...
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 06:48 pm
@Region Philbis,
they just wouldn't be Houston without bad uni's.

even before the bold color switch they were sad...

"The fashion trends of the 1960s had started taking root in baseball. Long hair and loud colors were starting to appear on teams uniforms, including the Astros. In 1971 the Astros made some changes to their uniform: they kept the same style they had in previous seasons, but inverted the colors. What was navy blue was now orange and what was orange was now a lighter shade of blue. The players' last names were added to the back of the jerseys. In 1972, the uniform fabric was also changed to what was at the time revolutionizing the industry – polyester. Belts were replaced by elastic waistbands, and jerseys zipped up instead of buttons. The uniforms became popular with fans, but would last only until 1975, when the Astros would shock baseball and the fashion world"...

(from wiki)
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 07:57 pm
@Rockhead,
What was that you said?...Houston Hemmorhoids? Would they play on
ass-fault? Would they give free admission to proctologists?
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2012 10:22 am
@Rockhead,
Quote:
“We’ve been studying the uniforms and we think there are some good ideas with the past,” he said. “We have had baseball’s people in to talk to them about what needs to be done. We’re trying to follow the proper protocol. They have very tight rules. We’re going to get some fan input together and put a study group together.”

It is a proven fact, beyond any dispute, that fans have absolutely the worst taste in sports uniforms. Remember these?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_R2yHiPgsajA/SYsU2fkbJmI/AAAAAAAAA-0/heQoY6M-1wA/s400/fisk+jersey.jpg

Yeah, picked by the fans. But then they were still better than this:

http://nathanmyers.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/chicago.jpg%3Fw%3D347%26h%3D393?w=350

Lots of fans wear retro jerseys. Nobody wears these.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2012 12:28 pm
The time to bring these back is now. Gotta get fans into PNC somehow.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSp2c1sVu8W4lbV8eIe8TbIYDzOfHdV4aAMvqLpi3YAQnFt11nSZw
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2012 01:04 pm

they might as well bring back the ****-brown padre uni's also...

http://90feetofperfection.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/garvey-new.jpg
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2012 06:19 pm
Quote:
Source: Tigers to sign Prince Fielder

The Detroit Tigers and slugger Prince Fielder have agreed to a nine-year, $214 million deal,
a source told ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick.

CBSSports.com and Yahoo! each had earlier reported the deal between the Tigers and the
free-agent first baseman.

Detroit boldly stepped up in the Fielder sweepstakes after the recent knee injury to star
Victor Martinez. A week ago, the Tigers announced that the productive designated hitter
could miss the entire season after tearing his left ACL during offseason conditioning.

Even though he never expected to re-sign Fielder, Milwaukee Brewers general manager
Doug Melvin called his departure "somewhat of a sad day," in comments to the Milwaukee
Journal Sentinel.

Melvin said the Brewers never made Fielder an offer once the team found out the terms that
agent Scott Boras was seeking.

"Scott said from Day 1 it was going to be $200 million," Melvin told the newspaper. "When you
hear those kinds of numbers, we couldn't get involved in that. All I can say is we had
the feeling it was going to be very difficult to keep him."

The Tigers won their division by 15 games before losing in the AL Championship Series to Texas.
Adding the 27-year-old Fielder gives the Tigers two of the game's premier sluggers, pairing him
with Miguel Cabrera.

The move also keeps Fielder's name in the Tigers' family. His father, Cecil, became a big league
star when he returned to the majors from Japan and hit 51 home runs with Detroit in 1990. Cecil
played with the Tigers into the 1996 season, and young Prince made a name for himself by hitting
prodigious home runs in batting practice at Tiger Stadium.
(espn)
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2012 06:21 pm
@Region Philbis,
****...

not where Ida picked to land his big ass.

oh well.

the Royals will be in the fight for second place, hopefully...
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2012 07:41 pm
http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/10/jorge_posada.jpeg
It was sad to see Jorge Posada retire today, but what a great career he's had. And it's really remarkable that it was all spent with one team--17 seasons and 5 World Series rings. He'll be missed.
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Bambino
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2012 08:54 pm
@Rockhead,
Prince Fielder hater?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2012 10:02 pm
@Bambino,
nope.

pipedreaming royals fan.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 11:55 pm
The winners and losers in the Prince Fielder deal

among the losers listed...

"Kansas City Royals: Part of the prospect-packed team's plan to return to the playoffs was predicated on the AL Central staying weak over the next few years. And while the White Sox, Twins and Indians might be cooperating with K.C.'s vision, it looks like it'll have a big mountain to overcome in Michigan for at least the next 2-3 years."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/winners-losers-prince-fielder-deal-225053556.html
 

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