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7 US troops killed in Afghanistan

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2009 06:59 pm
@Yankee,
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7 today so far. Hope no Canadians or anyone else gets killed so the US can be "neat".


But you don't give a **** about civilians. Never have.

Let's "MyLai" 'em, says big brave Yankee, let's reinstate The Tiger Force, now those guys knew howta mow down civilians. Carpet bomb the suckers, napalm 'em, hell we can dump Agent Orange on their villages.

JTT
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jul, 2009 07:20 pm
Well, for heaven's sakes. Whoda ever thunk?


Quote:


Afghanistan, Another Untold Story
by Michael Parenti

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A report in the San Francisco Chronicle (17 November 2001) noted that under the Taraki regime Kabul had been "a cosmopolitan city. Artists and hippies flocked to the capital. Women studied agriculture, engineering and business at the city's university. Afghan women held government jobs--in the 1980s, there were seven female members of parliament. Women drove cars, traveled and went on dates. Fifty percent of university students were women."

The Taraki government moved to eradicate the cultivation of opium poppy. Until then Afghanistan had been producing more than 70 percent of the opium needed for the world's heroin supply. The government also abolished all debts owed by farmers, and began developing a major land reform program. Ryan believes that it was a "genuinely popular government and people looked forward to the future with great hope."

But serious opposition arose from several quarters. The feudal landlords opposed the land reform program that infringed on their holdings. And tribesmen and fundamentalist mullahs vehemently opposed the government's dedication to gender equality and the education of women and children.

Because of its egalitarian and collectivist economic policies the Taraki government also incurred the opposition of the US national security state. Almost immediately after the PDP coalition came to power, the CIA, assisted by Saudi and Pakistani military, launched a large scale intervention into Afghanistan on the side of the ousted feudal lords, reactionary tribal chieftains, mullahs, and opium traffickers.

A top official within the Taraki government was Hafizulla Amin, believed by many to have been recruited by the CIA during the several years he spent in the United States as a student. In September 1979, Amin seized state power in an armed coup. He executed Taraki, halted the reforms, and murdered, jailed, or exiled thousands of Taraki supporters as he moved toward establishing a fundamentalist Islamic state. But within two months, he was overthrown by PDP remnants including elements within the military.

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None of this was of much concern to leaders in Washington who got along famously with the Taliban. As recently as 1999, the US government was paying the entire annual salary of every single Taliban government official. Not until October 2001, when President George W. Bush had to rally public opinion behind his bombing campaign in Afghanistan did he denounce the Taliban's oppression of women. His wife, Laura Bush, emerged overnight as a full-blown feminist to deliver a public address detailing some of the abuses committed against Afghan women.

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Interestingly enough, neither the Clinton nor Bush administrations ever placed Afghanistan on the official State Department list of states charged with sponsoring terrorism, despite the acknowledged presence of Osama bin Laden as a guest of the Taliban government. Such a "rogue state" designation would have made it impossible for a US oil or construction company to enter an agreement with Kabul for a pipeline to the Central Asian oil and gas fields.

In sum, well in advance of the 9/11 attacks the US government had made preparations to move against the Taliban and create a compliant regime in Kabul and a direct US military presence in Central Asia. The 9/11 attacks provided the perfect impetus, stampeding US public opinion and reluctant allies into supporting military intervention.

One might agree with John Ryan who argued that if Washington had left the Marxist Taraki government alone back in 1979, "there would have been no army of mujahideen, no Soviet intervention, no war that destroyed Afghanistan, no Osama bin Laden, and no September 11 tragedy." But it would be asking too much for Washington to leave unmolested a progressive leftist government that was organizing the social capital around collective public needs rather than private accumulation.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/12/02

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Yankee
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 06:06 am
@JTT,
I never EVER said that.

You know, pussys like you, get to talk big when you have absolutely no experience in what it is like to be in a real war. What ignorant folks like you want to believe is you ca fight a "war" and not have death and destruction. WRONG.

That is why it is so important for a govt to understand that if you must go to war, you must accept death and destruction.

If you can not accept that reality, better not go to war.

JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 11:24 am
@Yankee,
The reality is that you go to war when it's justified, not when a government concocts lies to justify what is nothing more than illegal invasions, lies to help perpetrate horror upon the people of a country just so you can line your own pockets.

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Yankee: I never EVER said that.


You say it in volumes, in your silence. I haven't ever heard you express the slightest bit of remorse over the death and destruction caused by the USA in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Nor have I heard you demand that those responsible for these crimes be held to account.

The only pussies involved are those who sit high above the fighting raining death on innocents, those who hide in "green zones" when their stated purpose was to help the people, those who spread baby bomblets around for children to play with, those who plant land mines, ... . What a monstrous joke this all is!

The pussies are those who allow untold numbers of war criminals to walk around free within their own country, to allow these vermin to live a life that they wrenched from innocent men, women and children, these vermin that walked and still walk around parroting, "oh we're here to help save these folks for democracy". "democracy", my ass, no one enjoys anything six feet under.

For the USA, the track record clearly indicates that it's never been about helping the people of other countries, it's greed, pure and simple.
Yankee
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 12:43 pm
@JTT,
That is because you only listen and hear what you want.

Civilian casualties are unfortunately, a result of any war.

If you do not want to have civilians killed, do not go to war.

No war is absolutely necessary, not even WW2. Every war is a war of choice.

Maybe if you grow up, one day you may understand what I just said.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 03:16 pm
@Yankee,
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That is because you only listen and hear what you want.


That's kind of you to provide such an abject lesson in hypocrisy, Yankee.

Why have you chosen to ignore that which causes you discomfort and instead, reel off a few empty platitudes.
Yankee
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 06:33 am
@JTT,
As I said, Junior, when you grow up, maybe you will understand what I posted prior.

JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 07:49 am
@Yankee,
What "stick your head in the sand" hypocrisy, Yankee. You aren't anywhere near honest enough to face up to the facts yet you're just stupid enough to carry on with your meaningless dribble.

You think you've actually said something new, something momentous in what you "posted prior". Please stop insulting your intelligence.
Yankee
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 11:39 am
@JTT,
Yea, whatever.

grow up fool.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 8 Jul, 2009 12:36 pm
@Yankee,
You're doing it again. Please stop insulting your intelligence.
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