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SOCIALISM FOR AMERICA....ITS TIME!!!

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 05:08 am
@Green Witch,
Green Witch wrote:

It's called Anarchy. I too would like an example of when it worked in the past.


In the Mapuche culture it worked for some centuries, it is thought.
okie
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 09:35 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Green Witch wrote:

It's called Anarchy. I too would like an example of when it worked in the past.


In the Mapuche culture it worked for some centuries, it is thought.

Perhaps you haven't heard of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights, Walter?
Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 09:50 am
@genoves,
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You evidently do not know that the US is guided by its Constitution.

Article 1, Section 7. Clause 1--All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives. How are you going to tax millions of voters who keep thier representatives in their seats every two years if those representatives are supposed to vote for taxing Surplus Value?


Are you going to lead a revolution? Where is your Army? Do you wear a tinfoil hat?
taxpayers will be taken for $12 trillion in bailout cash for banks with only 6 percent of taxpayers approving. Voter power is an illusion.
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rabel22
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 09:51 am
@okie,
Hold on, slow down. In an arnarchist government you need guns, big guns and I havent had time to buy mine yet.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2009 11:02 am
So we now except the capitalist system as the only thing that works for us humans. But it doesn't work in the end.

Capitalism is suicide.

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. (-Abbey, Edward)

It is a fact that capitalism must keep growing. The consumer must buy and the capitalist must make stuff FOREVER. Good, bad, right, wrong? doesn't matter. Whatever is at our disposal we turn into capital to the extent that that is all we see. Our relationship to EVERTHING is a potential means of capital.



Can we understand anything different? Is capital so much a part of our reality that the whole of our existence is overtaken by the concept of capital the we turn our souls and eco system into capital.

We have to stop growing capital like cancer. We will become unhuman and the earth will not be able to support life.

An evolution beyond capitalism which is if you think about it archaic. John Galt is a myth Madoff is the reality.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 10:25 pm
Exploitation (slavery)- to stay in buisinees and make more profit the capitalist must always find cheaper labor by any means possible and these means are terror, lies, bribes ,torture, subversion of democracy, etc,etc. Soon there will be more exploited the consumers. Capitalism will hit it's roof on cheap labor.

Exploiting people is bad. It's like satanism. Beetween cheap labor and democracy the capitalist will pick cheap labor every time and he will employ terrorist from the school of the Americas to over throw democracy. The capitalist does not beleive in freedom he only sees capital and he is either unhappy or psychotic because of it.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jul, 2009 10:58 pm
If you read Marx's theories on alienation, surplus value and fetishism (for material things)

You will see that the pursuit of happiness is impossible because it is defined by the capitalist (cultural hegemony) system which is driven by being exploited or exploiting (both man and nature). The exploited (slaves) are alienated from there true human nature. We Americans are ruduced to marketing subjects, to the extreme. We have been conditioned to pursue nothing but products.

I have studied Natural law, natural rights and unalienable rights. I am pursuing them and beleive we are tied together, that you can not exploit others and be or have a system where the pursuit of happiness can be achieved by all that work for it.
okie
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 09:45 pm
@Amigo,
Ah yes, that magic word, "exploitation!" Is that the only word that political science professors in colleges and universities know anymore.

Speaking of being exploited, Obama is exploiting the whole country to further his own selfish ends.
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okie
 
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Reply Wed 5 Aug, 2009 10:48 pm
@Amigo,
Amigo wrote:

If you read Marx's theories on alienation, surplus value and fetishism (for material things)

We can all be so glad that you have studied Marx, do you want a medal or something? You have probably studied Mickey Mouse too?
Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jan, 2010 06:10 pm
@okie,
Every American that reads Marx should get a medal.
okie
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2010 04:44 pm
@Amigo,
Obama probably would have a housefull of medals if that were the case.

No thanks, I don't have any desire to read his idiocy, Amigo.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 11 Apr, 2010 09:38 pm
Let's make a list of those we should imprison at Guantanamo first . . . Mel Gibson . . . Michelle Bachmann . . . Sarah Palin . . .
Xenoche
 
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Reply Mon 12 Apr, 2010 12:29 am
"YOU could be anything you want, if YOU put your mind to it."
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 08:21 pm
@okie,
Classic right winger! Judges without knowing!
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okie
 
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Reply Tue 13 Apr, 2010 08:48 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

Let's make a list of those we should imprison at Guantanamo first . . . Mel Gibson . . . Michelle Bachmann . . . Sarah Palin . . .

You are in fact a pathetic left wing radical, aren't you, plainoldme? Usually, the truth will eventually come out with leftists, their true feelings. Hatred is usually at the core of their feelings. One of the things they yearn for is to send those that disagree with them off to prison to re-educate them to their way of thinking, and if they resist, just do away with them, they are useless and expendable, no use to them.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2010 07:46 pm
@okie,
Were you looking in the mirror when you wrote that? You spend so much time here, trying to get others to accept your point of view, which is only a point of view, nothing based on facts or intellection. So, aren't you just a tad hypocritical? Besides, no one hates like a rightie.

But, leftists have a reason to hate the right. The right is destroying the planet and making life here impossible for our children and grandchildren. There is nothing any rightie ever did that was beneficial to the planet or society.

I want Gibson et al to leave because they are hateful people, spreading hatred. I don't want to indoctrinate them but you want to indoctrinate me and you feel miserable because you can't do it.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2010 07:54 pm
@okie,
You are so quick to figure things out.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Fri 16 Apr, 2010 08:01 pm
How Republicans wage a war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3p1l__AaG0

FOR PROFIT

"The merchant has no countryā€¯

-Thomas Jefferson

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Amigo
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2010 08:22 pm
"Planet or Death!" -- Bolivian President Evo Morales' Courageous Speech at World People's Conference on Climate Change

http://www.alternet.org/news/146574/%22planet_or_death%21%22_--_bolivian_president_evo_morales%27_courageous_speech_at_world_people%27s_conference_on_climate_change
okie
 
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Reply Fri 23 Apr, 2010 08:49 pm
@Amigo,
Oh brother, what idiocy!
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