genoves
 
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Reply Wed 27 May, 2009 03:22 pm
Brandon 9000 wrote:

No, you simply don't respect even as fundamental a right as the right of people who disagree with you to prevail if they win a vote. And that's a very, very fundamental right indeed.
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right on the money

If Herr Diest read any of the State Constitutions( if he knows how to read fairly complex material) he would discover that referendums are provided for in state constituions. Herr Diest apparently does not know that any powers not specifically granted to the federal government remain with the states.

But what if the states take actions that violate the US constitution?

Well, then, that is cause for a referral to the Supreme Court. The gay lobby is working on that even at this time.

But, Herr Diest need not worry, Obama will soon appoint a openly gay judge to the Supreme Court. That will level the playing field. Unfortunately he will onlu gain 234 more votes in the next election. There were only 234 gays who did not vote for Obama in 2000.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 27 May, 2009 03:32 pm
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

I don't know. Prop 8 passed even though Obama was heading up the ticket and pulling out liberals in large numbers. That doesn't speak well for future success in a standard election. At least there is an active conversation going on.

It could go either way engineer. I think there is a large enough margin of yes on prop8 voters that have since seen how this doesn't effect them and does effect LGBT families. That compounded with watching the sky NOT FALL in states like Iowa, and the northeast. That group could be enough to swing the vote in the future.

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genoves
 
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Reply Wed 27 May, 2009 03:35 pm
Brandon 9000 wrote:

No, you simply don't respect even as fundamental a right as the right of people who disagree with you to prevail if they win a vote. And that's a very, very fundamental right indeed.
************************
right on the money

If Herr Diest read any of the State Constitutions( if he knows how to read fairly complex material) he would discover that referendums are provided for in state constituions. Herr Diest apparently does not know that any powers not specifically granted to the federal government remain with the states.

But what if the states take actions that violate the US constitution?

Well, then, that is cause for a referral to the Supreme Court. The gay lobby is working on that even at this time.

But, Herr Diest need not worry, Obama will soon appoint a openly gay judge to the Supreme Court. That will level the playing field. Unfortunately he will onlu gain 234 more votes in the next election. There were only 234 gays who did not vote for Obama in 2000.
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genoves
 
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Reply Wed 27 May, 2009 03:37 pm
Herr Diest has probably never attended a Baptist Gospel meeting in the inner city. I have. Black ministers REGULARLY excoriate anyone who backs any kind of homosexual agenda. If there is any kind of an exit poll for the referendum, I would put heavy money on the fact that blacks voted in large numbers for Proposition 8.
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