Elizabeth Edwards=Scum

@sozobe,

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My own take on it is just, she enjoys being a public figure.

I think this must be at least somewhat true, because if what she gave as her reason as for writing the book, was true,

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Quote: "I have said before that I do not know what the most important lesson is that I will ever teach my children, Kate, Emma Claire and Jack. I do know that when they're older and telling their own children about their grandmother, they will be able to say that she stood in the storm, and when the wind did not blow her away -- and it surely has not -- she adjusted her sails."

That's what you want them to know?

MS. EDWARDS: It is. I don't -- as I said, I don't know what the most important lesson is, but I hope it is that when bad things happen -- it's easy to get through the good days -- when bad things happen, you have the strength to face them.

she could have just handed them the manuscript and wouldn't have needed to publish the thing.

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Is she wasn't talking about all of this so much; I would say their problems are between the two of them and leave it at that, but she has been talking quite a bit about all this since the story broke so my theory is that I don't really understand why covering up an affair warrants such hatred for either John Edwards or Elizabeth. It is not as though John Edwards affair has anything to do with his position in the Senate (ex position I mean.) My personal feeling is that John Edwards sucks, but if she has it in her to forgive him, that is her business. My other personal feeling is that if it were me, I would not winningly contribute to the airing of my dirty laundry to the public no matter how much money might come to me through a book. All in all, it is all a bit tacky all around.

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Elizabeth Edwards has been willing to talk about most anything in interviews about her new memoir that details her husband John's affair, but only under one condition: Interviewers must agree not to mention the name of the other woman in their broadcasts or stories.
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Drake said Edwards's restriction isn't motivated by "anger" toward Hunter, but by a desire not to see Hunter profit from the affair. Noting that other notorious figures -- such as Ashley Dupré, the call girl who slept with then-New York Gov. Elliot Spitzer -- have cashed in on their media attention, Drake said Edwards "doesn't want to contribute to putting this woman in the spotlight. She feels that, to the extent the media shines attention on people like this, that we encourage this kind of behavior. She doesn't want to reward bad behavior."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/13/AR2009051303429.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Well Geez, NOT writing this book and NOT doing a publicity tour to support it might have helped with that.

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The woman is dying. I agree, I think this was cathartic for her. She's lived in the public eye for so long that I believe she wanted to have her final say...to go out on her own terms.

Buy the book or don't, it doesn't matter. She deserves a final self-expression, as do we all.

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@Eva,

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@Eva,

Eva wrote:

The woman is dying. I agree, I think this was cathartic for her. She's lived in the public eye for so long that I believe she wanted to have her final say...to go out on her own terms.

Buy the book or don't, it doesn't matter. She deserves a final self-expression, as do we all.

I hate compassion, it seems so unamerican. Eva must be a socialist.

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worse.... a democrat-socialist.

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@Eva,

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Buy the book or don't, it doesn't matter. She deserves a final self-expression, as do we all.

She has the RIGHT to speak, what she deserves now that their actions and their words make it clear that it was always about them is ?? I fell for the sales pitch the Edwards long gave, that it was supposed to be about the little guy. Being exposed as a fraud is supposed to hurt, we need it too hurt, in order to discourage the practice. I don't give a **** about either one of them at this point, their only use to America now is as an example of what not to do, and what can happen if you violate public trust. If they get hurt in the process, well they made their own bed, who am I to deny them the rightfull fruits of their labors?

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@hawkeye10,

and I will add that if either Elizabeth or John ever put themselves into the public space now or in the future they should get the reaction that they have earned. They have the option of going away, of not showing their face or running their mouths, if they get abused in public it is their own fault for being seen in public. They should feel shame, or alternatively be shamed if they don't make the proper apologizes and restitutions.

what was it last week when Condie Rice was called to accounts by some student for her support of war crimes.....the left was all snickering and saying that she deserved what she got. Those on the left must say the same about the Edwards, fairness demands it, if the Edwards choose to enter the public arena.

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Its good to know that conseratives still lack compassion. I was afraid that they might be changeing for the better. Perish the thought.

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@rabel22,

I don't think this is about politics at all. It matters nothing to me at all whether these people are Democrats or Republicans.
I feel compassion for these children. Because I can still picture those two little ones, who will be left standing at their mother's grave dealing with all of this.
I certainly have compassion for Elizabeth Dole as well.
Just because you can't endorse a person's behavior doesn't mean you don't have compassion for that person.
And to break it down by political affiliation is to trivialize what's happening to those children.
It's a human tragedy - not a political one.

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@rabel22,

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Its good to know that conseratives still lack compassion. I was afraid that they might be changeing for the better. Perish the thought.

FYI- I am a socialist, thus for me the greater good takes priority over one individuals best interests. Individuals must be sacrificed for the greater good sometimes, we cant save every cheat nor every fool.

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Let me please share this thought. I have had no agents or publishers after me asking for my life story, my first husband's unrelenting unfaithfulness, his violence or the night he tried to kill me. But I was only 27, not running for office, just trying to keep my 24month old son safe. I don't know how much of this story is accurate, but the papers have reported Edwards wife tried to talk him out of running but he insisted it was a "one-time-only" thing. I believed my ex's lies for a while, because I would never think he could lie to me. I was his wife ...OK everybody can have a big belly laugh now, but I was young and trusting. But the night he threatened me with the M-16 and I saw he had loaded a banana clip, my silly notions flew off the window. I was lucky, I hauled ass and got my son out of there.
I'm not going to dump on a woman who had cancer when she found out about Edward's "one-time" affair. She still has cancer, and if the publishers will pay her, I'm sure she will sock it away for her kids. I don't know how much time she has. No one else here does either. Buy her book, don't buy her book, personally the less I know about this the better I feel. But I feel for Mrs. Edwards, she was treated shabbily by her husband.

But since we are on the move tonight, how about those lousy sluts that Newt Gingrich was forced to live with. One of his wives had to be served her divorce papers IN THE HOSPITAL while she was undergoing chemo. It was extremely selfish of her not to avoid the cancer so she could have been dumped in a much more private manner.
I suppose I shouldn't criticize Newt, HE is making a big comback, so what does it matter how he treats the wives in his life, or the woman he was having an affair with while he was after Clinton for BJ gate.

It's late and I'm tired, so please don't bring up Madonna or I'll have to jump off the Bay Bridge.

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@aidan,

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I certainly have compassion for Elizabeth Dole as well.

I meant to say Elizabeth Edwards. See, my compassion is bipartisan.

I'm gonna read the book, but I'll wait for it to come out in the library. I won't buy it - but I don't buy many books- so it's not on principle or anything that I'm not buying it.

And I am really interested to read what sort of book she's written.

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Pure speculation of course but IMO, he'll probably run for the presidency again. And she may not be around for it. Why she would help grant him his lifelong dream is beyond me"maybe she's just a fool in love, huh?"but this current big show of forgiveness will help pave the way for him. They hope.

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Even John Edwards has to know his time is over, he could never even raise the money, turn out the lights, it's time to lock up.

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@Eva,

Eva, as a nurse, I fully agree with you. No one can understand the agony or the feelings of betrayal that she has felt in her situation. Would I or you or anyone on A2K write the book? I know I wouldn't. I have thought that it is catharsis...and I am an oncology nurse. Cancer is the victor...we know not why she writes the book, but we know that she loved him so much to stick by him. I have only the greatest sympathy. I think she knew he wouldn't win the nomination...Those that wonder why or how can just do that. They don't have death staring them in the face. That's all. I have cared for many who do the strangest things in the face of death.

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@Vietnamnurse,

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I have cared for many who do the strangest things in the face of death.

death has a way of either bringing out the best or the worst in a person.....thing is society can't afford to let bad acts go unnoticed, no matter what the motivation (excuse) is. We can't continue to treat those who do badly as victims. And besides, she has never so much as apologized for what she has done, she just wrote a book were she paints herself as a survivor, she is no where near ready to apologize.

We need to hold her toes to the fire.

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@hawkeye10,

You can do it...not me. I don't agree with what she did, but I don't consider her scum. She may have done it for reasons that none of us know. I do not judge.

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@Vietnamnurse,

I don't at all think Elizabeth Edwards is scum, but I don't like that she was promoting him when, if found out, the potential nomination, or real nomination, would fail because of the nature of the press and the reaction to such news. Some of us posting here have had cancer. That doesn't mean we would risk the democratic nomination to the fire and light of the press so that our philandering husband wouldn't be embarrassed or that our children would not be disturbed by a quiet withdrawal for quiet reasons, arguably appropriate without the complication of the mistress. It was a major election and risking the press not finding out was not right.

No, I don't think at all that she is any kind of scum, ugly words that don't compute, that I don't mean. I do empathize, I make significantly dumb decisions myself - but white washing this choice while she did participate past the decision to go ahead, nah, I'm not convinced. She is not scum, she is not a saint, she is human. I remain not liking her choice (as if that mattered). I've had friends at stage four, the beginning and the end. Given the impact of the news of the mistress, she was probably just reactive. I get that. I still don't like the choice.

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