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OBAMA-NATION beginning to Tear US Apart!!!

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 11:36 am
@Woiyo9,
It seems I struck a chord.

You seem upset about no longer being in power Woiyo.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 11:43 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

The Govt should not condition the "stimulus" use for programs the State can not afford.


If the state can't afford them, they shouldn't accept the monies. Everything in life comes with strings attached, as you well know.

Cycloptichorn
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 11:49 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

Shut the **** up asshole.

A hit! A palpable hit!
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 11:58 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

If the state can't afford them, they shouldn't accept the monies. Everything in life comes with strings attached, as you well know.


maybe he's not married... Laughing

he and his cronies seem to be what my father called the "hooray for me and the hell with you crowd".
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 12:19 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
No stupid. I am a States Rights fan and agree with Cyclo. I also support OK's position.
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 12:44 pm
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

No stupid. I am a States Rights fan and agree with Cyclo. I also support OK's position.


so i guess the question is, at what point do state's rights begin to interfere with the national welfare?

just wondering...
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 12:46 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
DontTreadOnMe wrote:

Woiyo9 wrote:

No stupid. I am a States Rights fan and agree with Cyclo. I also support OK's position.


so i guess the question is, at what point do state's rights begin to interfere with the national welfare?

just wondering...


We had a big ol' argument about this 150 years ago, if I recall, and the Feds won. Conclusively.

Cycloptichorn
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 01:12 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

Woiyo9 wrote:

No stupid. I am a States Rights fan and agree with Cyclo. I also support OK's position.


so i guess the question is, at what point do state's rights begin to interfere with the national welfare?

just wondering...


We had a big ol' argument about this 150 years ago, if I recall, and the Feds won. Conclusively.

Cycloptichorn


most certainly. guess there are those who didn't hear the plus-size womyn warble. did you happen to watch that t.v. show, "jericho" last year?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 01:14 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
DontTreadOnMe wrote:

most certainly. guess there are those who didn't hear the plus-size womyn warble. did you happen to watch that t.v. show, "jericho" last year?


Nope. Seem destined to be canceled from the start, couldn't invest much time in it. Relevant to the discussion? I may have to go back and review it on Netflix.

Cycloptichorn
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 01:24 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

most certainly. guess there are those who didn't hear the plus-size womyn warble. did you happen to watch that t.v. show, "jericho" last year?


Nope. Seem destined to be canceled from the start, couldn't invest much time in it. Relevant to the discussion? I may have to go back and review it on Netflix.

Cycloptichorn


i think so. basically it's eventually revealed that the nukes weren't from foreign enemies, but rather the beginning of a new american civil war. it whittles down to 2 men claiming to be the legitimate president, each establishing a new federal government and capitol. we thought it was very analogous. rent it, you'll probably dig it.

sort of pre- "the handmaiden's tale".

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ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 7 May, 2009 06:10 pm


Journey wrote:
You make me weep and wanna die, just when you said we'd try
Lovin', touchin', squeezin' each other
When I'm alone, all by myself, your out with someone else
Lovin', touchin', squeezin' each other

You're tearing me apart, every every day
You're tearing me apart, oh what can I say
You're tearing me apart

It won't be long yet, 'til you're alone
When your lover, oh he hasn't come home
'Cos he's lovin', ooh he's touchin', he's squeezin' another

He's tearin' you apart, oh every every day
He's tearin' you apart, oh girl what can you say
'Cos he's lovin', touchin' another, now it's your turn, girl, to cry

Na na na na na na, na na na na na, na na na na na na, na na na na na...
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 06:00 am

U.S. threatens to rescind stimulus money over wage cuts
The Obama administration threatens to rescind billions in stimulus money if Gov. Schwarzenegger and lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers.
By Evan Halper
May 8, 2009
Reporting from Sacramento -- The Obama administration is threatening to rescind billions of dollars in federal stimulus money if Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state lawmakers do not restore wage cuts to unionized home healthcare workers approved in February as part of the budget.

Schwarzenegger's office was advised this week by federal health officials that the wage reduction, which will save California $74 million, violates provisions of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Failure to revoke the scheduled wage cut before it takes effect July 1 could cost California $6.8 billion in stimulus money, according to state officials.

News comes as state lawmakers are already facing a severe cash crisis, with the state at risk of running out of money in July.

The wages at issue involve workers who care for some 440,000 low-income disabled and elderly Californians. The workers, who collectively contribute millions of dollars in dues each month to the influential Service Employees International Union and the United Domestic Workers, will see the state's contribution to their wages cut from a maximum of $12.10 per hour to a maximum of $10.10.

The SEIU said in a statement that it had asked the Obama administration for the ruling.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-health-cuts8-2009may08,0,4592200.story

Either the State needs the stimulus or it does not. Stop the conditions Obama.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 08:18 am
@Woiyo9,
It's just tearing you up, isn't it Woiyo.


Is "us" in your title the royal "us"?
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 09:03 am
Obama budget nixes aid for jailing illegal immigrants

President Obama voted in the Senate to provide additional funding for a program targeted for elimination by his budget that provides states a federal subsidy to offset the costs of jailing illegal immigrants.

Killing the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program would save $400 million, according to Obama's budget for Fiscal Year 2010 released Thursday. It's one of the largest non-defense discretionary cuts proposed in the president's budget.

The program is popular with border state politicians in Capitol Hill, however, making its elimination a tough sell to lawmakers, particularly from California.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein has repeatedly pushed for additional funding for the program, and lawmakers from other states that have costs associated with illegal aliens have also offered support.

A bipartisan trio of House members from California have drafted a letter urging the House Appropriations subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies to restore funding for the SCAAP program. The three members, Reps. Mike Honda (D), Adam Schiff (D) and Jerry Lewis, the top Republican on the Appropriations Committee, are also asking the rest of the California House delegation to sign the letter, Honda's office said.

As an Illinois senator, Obama co-sponsored an amendment offered by former Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), now Obama's secretary of state, that would have provided additional funding for the program. It also would have established a grant program to defray local government health care and education costs for non-citizens.

"Each year, the SCAAP program is underfunded," Clinton said in 2006 comments urging support for her amendment. She cited a 2005 GAO study that found local governments only get 25 percent of their costs reimbursed through the program.

"Throughout our country and in my State, there are counties and municipalities that are covering the costs of dealing with education, healthcare, and law enforcement without adequate or any Federal reimbursement," Clinton said. "So we have left our local and state governments to fend for themselves. They should not be left to bear these costs alone because it is not they who are making Federal immigration policy."

Another Obama cabinet member, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, then a senator from Colorado, was also a co-sponsor.

Obama voted for the amendment, but it was defeated 43-52.

Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that has called for tougher border security, predicted it is "very unlikely" that Obama's proposal to cut the program will be accepted by Congress. He noted that the Bush administration repeatedly tried to zero out the program, but always ran into opposition in Congress.


"It's hard to justify getting rid of it honestly," Krikorian said. "It's a necessary program because the federal government is reimbursing states and localities for the federal government's own mistakes."

Krikorian, like Clinton in 2006, argued immigration enforcement is a federal responsibility, and if state and local jails are incarcerating illegal immigrants, it is because of failed federal policies.

According to the FY2010 budget, Obama's administration thinks resources used for the program could be better served to enhance federal efforts to curb illegal immigration.

"In place of SCAAP, the administration proposes a comprehensive border enforcement strategy that supports resources for a comprehensive approach to enforcement along the nation's borders that combines law enforcement and prosecutorial efforts to investigate arrest, detail, and prosecute illegal immigrants and other criminals," the budget states.

It emphasizes that the budget will provide funding for an additional 20,000
Border Patrol agents to protect the border, and an additional $1.4 billion for Immigration and Customs Enforcement programs to support the quick identification and removal of illegal aliens who commit crimes in the U.S.

The Office of Management and Budget did not respond when contacted about this story.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-budget-nixes-aid-for-jailing-illegal-immigrants-2009-05-08.html
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 09:10 am
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:
What ever happened to that Bush character anyway.

He's giving a speech at a Christian college in Lubbock.
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moonman64
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2010 02:01 pm
Seem to me that some of you are hung up on Race, Democrat VS Republican and so on. Does No one see the big picture here. We, as a Nation, A World Leader in ALL aspects, are systematically being disassembled. Have you ever heard the old saying "The best way to hurt someone is in the pocket book"
well thats what is going on. take down the value of the dollar and you Take down the US. Open your eyes, look around. its right there for all to see, every day. they are not even hiding it. to move at the speed required to get it done they don't bother hiding it. it's a Blitz.
I can't say who "They" are although I have my suspicion's as I am sure some of you do, I'm not sure I want to jump on board with those who say Obama was molded from a young age to infiltrate government and create internal problems. I'm not into Conspiracy Theory, But I can see and hear.

So I say to you, Stop quibbling with one another, We Are AMERICANS, We have a history of overcoming adversity by always remaining united. they will divide us if we let them drive wedges like Race, Religion, Politics, Class Ect.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jul, 2010 02:59 pm
@moonman64,
When you say "they", you are talking about the Jewish bakers, right Moonman?
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moonman64
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jul, 2010 12:24 am
"Jewish bakers" Well I don't think all the bankers are Jewish. Although it would seem that the banking industry has a vested interest in bringing the US down. to condemn the Jewish is another "religious" wedge designed to divide us as a nation and keep us fighting with one another rather then Uniting Against the issues that face us all.
think about it, watch CNN or your local news, everyone is up in arms over Race. Racism on all sides, yet its a choreographed distraction away from real issues. Like, The Deregulation of the banking system lead to uncontrolled Crimes under the guise of big business, raped the US people for hundreds of billions and led to the economic crash we are in. Then Billions $$$ given to the people who caused it, rather then where it could have worked. Creating a debt so high our grandchildren's grandchildren will still be paying for it. (devalue the dollar) the health care reform, this will degrade the quality of care available and take billions $$$ from the economy, reducing funding for pharmaceutical and medical research and development, taking billions more out of the economy, shutting down of NASA and the Space program, do you have any idea how many Billions of dollars aerospace research and development brings the private sector in every state. not just Texas and Florida. The tightening of mortgage rules, Did you know the strict new rules only apply to the small local Private mortgage lenders,(making it increasingly more difficult to get a loan,) Not the big banks that started the whole thing. They are preventing us (the people) from fixing the problem and moving on. Actually BLOCKING recovery. Preventing Oil rigs from operation, and on and on. Look around. If WE THE PEOPLE don't take action, He WILL take us down. another 6 months of this and we are done.
Riots, brake down of infrastructure, (that means interstate transport, ie food and supplies), water treatment plants, garbage service, fuel, internet and telecommunication, electricity, police and fire, medical service, all gone. We WILL be a third world country.




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