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Mexico and China

 
 
Reply Mon 4 May, 2009 11:57 pm
I post this thread with a bias toward Mexico, which I announce upfront. But never mind me, let's follow this, and talk about it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSPEK122467

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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:00 am
@ossobuco,
Quote:

The state-run Xinhua news agency said the Mexicans in Beijing were doing well inside a hotel where they have been confined, though the air conditioning has been turned off to prevent any spread of disease despite temperatures reaching 30 degrees Celsius (86 F) outside.

They were put in the best rooms and sent fruit and flowers every day, Xinhua said, citing Deng Xiaohong, deputy director of Beijing Municipal Health Bureau.


Complete idiocy.

ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:04 am
@ebrown p,
Passing the fruit.. to people - some of whom haven't been in Mexico in many months. Well, never mind that, it highlights the absurdity, but I don't like that those folks get to be better.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:10 am
@ossobuco,
The first time I ever worried about frightening flu viruses was from news points re places in china that had hogs, birds, and children in close context.

So, I get it that China is careful.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:16 am
@ossobuco,
Talking for myself, I'm not worried about this virus and see the world wide flume as near laughable except for the economic ramifications from the fear mongering.
Sort of senior posturing.

And yet, in a given situation, they could be right.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:24 am
@ossobuco,
Re the mexican tourists, if I were them, I'd be berserk working out legal challenges. Nutso situation.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:25 am
@ossobuco,
To me this seems like bureaucratic bungling of a high order.

I suppose there would be a situation where this level of quarantine is warranted (even without air conditioning).... but it seems there should be some scientists (or other rational people) involved in this decision.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:28 am
@ebrown p,
I see this as a juvenile decision..

with luck it may be rescinded.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:33 am
@ossobuco,
They started an AIDS epidemic in their own country with contaminated blood. They covered up outbreaks of avian flu.
Toxic milk products - attempted cover up.
Poisonous toys.
Toxic sheetrock! And how did they manage that?
Now they are concerned about public health. Incredible!
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 12:51 am
@roger,
I take your point, Roger. But China is not monolithic, even if it seems to work out that way for a time.
I knew a grad landscape architect at a UC who may be there now, with his rounder view.
I agree with your qualms. At the same time.. much potential.

Yeh, I get the irony, multiple irony.

Still, rounding up Mexicans? Give me a ******* break.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 01:11 am
@ossobuco,
I remain ignorant of what is going on re all this in China, and am interested.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 03:20 pm
Mexico is not alone. They have quarantined a bunch of Canadian students from McGill University in Montreal. None have symptoms, in fact, as of yet, there are no cases in Quebec at all.
I guess, they're getting us back for SARS.
Stupid people.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 03:24 pm
@Ceili,
I'm thinking those chinese are just inscrutable.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:51 pm
@dyslexia,
Seems like a song, "you're inscrutable"..
oh, never mind.


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fbaezer
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 04:59 pm
A Mexican representative said it perfectly: they're treating Mexican citizens as if they were Chinese... with no regard at all of their human rights.

Mexico sent a plane yesterday to rescue them: the poor tourists were driven to the airport by ambulance. They should be home tomorrow morning.


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China's reaction made me wonder about what may have happened over there with the bird flu.
Maybe thousands of deaths they hid from the rest of the world?
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 05:09 pm
@fbaezer,
Interesting question, fb.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 05:58 pm
@fbaezer,
That's quite believable. I can't think of a single country that has been less open about communicable disease. The country simply lacks credibility.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 11:52 pm
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/27/article-1174007-04B01B6D000005DC-992_634x390.jpg

Meanwhile, Afghanistan has quarantined it's one and only pig....

This is not the Afghany pig, but a rare woolly Austrian pig named Elizabeth. Ain't she sweet.
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A Lone Voice
 
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Reply Tue 5 May, 2009 11:56 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

I post this thread with a bias toward Mexico, which I announce upfront. But never mind me, let's follow this, and talk about it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSPEK122467




China is run by a totalitarian government, which the subjects who live there have chosen to accept.

Why would anyone expect anything different?
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