name on ething that the GOP has done in countering this free fall? All Ive seen is that theyve been totally obstructionist and have purposely not engaged any helpful debate ever since the Bush admin ended with such messes all about us.
At least he didn't say they are 'strong.'
"If we are keeping focus on all the fundamentally sound aspects of our economy ... then we're gonna get through this, and I'm very confident about that," Obama said, while acknowledging the crisis has caused "incredible pain and hardship."
alv, i can understand your, umm... displeasure if obama had actually said that "the fundamentals are sound".
obviously not all of them are. some are.
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alv, i can understand your, umm... displeasure if obama had actually said that "the fundamentals are sound".
obviously not all of them are. some are.
Well, if you compare this, and Obama telling us to buy stocks..., (much like Bush told us to go shopping), you realize that one, most politicians are idiots, and two, the media (and the left) continues to give Obama a pass.
The left - and the media - ripped Bush and Mccain for their comments. Yet, we hear the virtually the same nonsense from Obama, and it is again, virtually ignored.
I'm just tired of doubles standards. You know I wasn't a Bush fan. Yet these Obamabots are far worse than any Bush zealot ever was...
2001
April: The Administration's FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is "a potential problem," because "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity."
** 2002
May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)
** 2003
January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.
February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that "although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations," "the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them." As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. ("Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO," OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)
September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO's review found earnings manipulations.
September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact "legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises" and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.
October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.
November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any "legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk." To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have "broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards" and "receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)
** 2004
February: The President's FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: "The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator." (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)
February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to "not take [the financial market's] strength for granted." Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by "ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, "Keeping Fannie And Freddie's House In Order," Financial Times, 2/24/04)
June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying "We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System." (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)
** 2005
April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying "Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system." (Secretary John W. Snow, "Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee," 4/13/05)
** 2007
July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.
August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying "first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options." (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)
September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August " up 115 percent from the year before.
September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month " the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.
December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying "These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I've called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs " and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon." (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)
** 2008
January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.
January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.
February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says "A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully." (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)
March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.
March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and "move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages." (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)
April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and "modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes." (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)
May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.
"Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans." (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)
"[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that " and Congress is making progress on this " is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator." (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)
"Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans." (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)
June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying "we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac." (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)
July: Congress heeds the President's call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.
you mean you don't see the difference between what he said (d'ya watch the video?) and mccain said ?
and now that you mention it, if a person is a player in the market, now probably is a good time to buy stock. as long as you're not spending scared money and have a decent feel for it, that is.
me, i don't like getting into stocks much. for all the obvious reasons. i'd rather go to the track. at least with the horses, you still get to enjoy a nice day out and cold beer even if you keep pickin' nags all day.
I realize Obama is in a honeymoon period; it's just seems to have gone on now for a while...
But that should not translate into license to make mischief, intentional or unintentional, that will not easily be undone.
Do YOU condone a 3.5 trillion dollar budget when we are in one of the worst recessions in decades?.
And frankly, I think some of the agenda of the current Congress and Administration has much potential to do a lot of unintended harm that will not be easily undone.
Such as nationalizing banks and other industries to keep them from failing. Such as a 3.5 trillion budget that is mostly on borrowed money and a tax policy that will almost ensure reduced treasury receipts to help offset it. Such as nationalizing a healthcare system when it is obvious that nobody in Washington has a clue how to effectively do that on a scale of the United States without harming the best within the current system. Such as using language to minimize the very real dangers posed by real people who want to destroy the United States and everybody in it.
That's for starters.
Such as using language to minimize the very real dangers posed by real people who want to destroy the United States and everybody in it.
jeez, al. obama hasn't even been in office a full 2 months yet.
question... i'm wondering if it is obama that you have a problem with, or is it folks like reid and pelosi ?
also, did you see the thing about the consortium (or whatever) that bayh is putting together consisting of centrist/moderate dems ? i find that encouraging, coming from a moderate indy pov myself.
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jeez, al. obama hasn't even been in office a full 2 months yet.
question... i'm wondering if it is obama that you have a problem with, or is it folks like reid and pelosi ?
also, did you see the thing about the consortium (or whatever) that bayh is putting together consisting of centrist/moderate dems ? i find that encouraging, coming from a moderate indy pov myself.
It's not so much an Obama, Reis, or even Pelosi thing.
really? i'm surprised. i like obama more by the day. but to me reid is kind of an ineffectual milquetoast. and pelosi... not a big fan.
Dems won the last election; it's their turn now.
and i fear that if they keep going the way they are, it's gonna be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...![]()
What I do mind, however, is the way the media, and the left, allows such a double standard.
i have to disagree, here. i've been surprised that even people that were obviously pro obama like oberman and maddow have been crackin' on stretch.
but like i mentioned before, if the far right and the far left are getting pissed at him, he must be doing something right. i am so sick and tired of the extremists in the country dictating every move.
The press failed in lying down during the Iraq War buildup. You think they would have learned.
you would. but you know the story. "if it bleeds, it leads." that coupled with the downfall of real journalists and the rising tide of "anyone with a computer can be a real mover and shaker" has more or less turned our world in to a regular reality show.
My deal is this: just look at the dems, and Obama, with the same skeptical eye used for Bush and the repubs.
i do. i don't think the answers can be found in extreme swings to the left or the right. there's a thing called balance.
Frankly, this adoration for Obama from the left - the same people who are always willing to criticize the US and the gov and our culture - the way they have virtually opened their legs to him is frightening.
yeah, there are some who really do fall into the category of being completely mesmerized. i put them in the same box as those who still go on and on about ronald reagan and that kid on youtube that was all freakin' out about britney spears.
And unfortunately these days, the left and the media are not separated by too much...
not sure i agree. i might agree more if you said that these days weasels and the media are not separated by too much.
Re the moderates? That's our Blue Dogs, started here in CA a while back. Come from conservative districts for the most part, but strong union support and usually law and order types. They spend their campaigns denouncing Pelosi and acting more repub than the repub running against them.
i wonder if jim webb is gonna get involved?
I think the level of Fed spending is scaring even them, frankly...
it is a whole shipload of cash. at the same time, we've really ignored a lot of things the last 20 or so years in favor of wasting time with the whole culture wars thing.
when bridges start collapsing underneath tax paying citizens, it's a pretty good indicator that things are not in grade a shape, ya know ?
Here is, in my opinion, a great piece on the state of the economy and how it got to be such.
I think the level of Fed spending is scaring even them, frankly...
it is a whole shipload of cash. at the same time, we've really ignored a lot of things the last 20 or so years in favor of wasting time with the whole culture wars thing.
when bridges start collapsing underneath tax paying citizens, it's a pretty good indicator that things are not in grade a shape, ya know ?