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Pronunciations

 
 
Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2003 05:10 am
Just a trivial topic really, but I was wondering if there are any 'standard' ways of pronouncing certain words, or if it is down to dialect or nationality. The ones I thought of to begin with were:

Aluminium - aloominum (eg US) or plain al-u-minium (eg UK)
Project - pro-ject, or proj-ect
Economics - eeco-nomics or just eco-nomics
Bath/Path etc - bath or barth (definately regional differences in the UK)

Anyone got any ideas or thoughts?
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2003 05:20 am
Don't know, but there are quite few regional differences in Oz too.

Are the differences in England region related or class related?

I suppose there's also educational level differences.
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Grand Duke
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2003 05:33 am
In the case of eg. 'bath', it is down to region and class. On the whole, an northerner (such as myself) would say 'bath' (like 'maths') but a southerner would create an 'r' from somewhere and say 'barth'. There are notherners of the upper classes (again, 'class' or 'clarss') who would introduce the 'r'. Standard 'BBC English' would be the latter.

I am university educated, but am fully aware of the difference in the 'impression of intelligence' it makes when talking to a southerner when us notherners talk the way we do. I can soften my accent considerably if I make a deliberate effort, but refuse to do so generally on the grounds that I am proud to be from up here. There are many more of them then there are of us, so their way is seen as the 'proper' way. As for the Welsh, Scots & Irish, well, who knows?!

I was told by a couple of Aussies I've met over here that there are only really 2 distinct accents in Oz, 'town' and 'country' - is this not the case?
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2003 05:50 am
I think there's more than just town and country. When I was in the RAAF, with people from all over the country, there was some lively debate about the 'correct' way to pronounce various words. Country people do tend to talk slower though.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2003 10:07 am
We have a few different accents in Canada -
quebec, acadian and prairie French are all different from french spoken anywhere else and needless to say their english is affected too.
The maritimes give an irish/scottish flair to the tongue.
In onario - central canada- they are persecuted relentlessly for going oot and aboot while driving ferr in there kerr.
We in the west have the decidely least accented language in the english speaking world. We speak the language so plainly it's difficult to pinpoint our origins.
But it's the mispronunciation of the vowels and ignoring the simple rules of grammar that make our language what it is. Wouldn't have it any other way....
Ceili
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Wy
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2003 08:01 pm
Hi.
One of the examples, project, is actually two words... homophone?

Pro-ject is a verb meaning to estimate for the future, among other things, or to cause light or shadow to fall onto a surface, i.e., the movie was pro-jected onto the screen...

Proj-ect is a noun; a specific plan or design or a specific undertaking (briefly); thus, the proj-ect is going according to plan...

The wash/warsh thing happens in the U.S. too, but I'm not sure whether it's location or class or what... Both my mom and dad were from the same area of the Midwest, but she washed and he warshed...
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