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Show gender or not ?

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 02:29 am
Oh my!
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 04:34 am
Craven de Kere wrote:
roger wrote:
Your gender is apparant, Sophia. And it didn't take long to pick up on on avatarless ravensrealm.


On the Realm I thought Lash was a guy.


So did I. Shocked
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 04:46 am
Where are all the women? I'm horny as hell.
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 05:19 am
hahaha!
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smokingunne
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 05:20 am
Smile First off to clear one thing up, I have no intention posting "blue" material to anyone, male or female. There is nothing untoward in any kind of way in my intentions. I am a very happily married man.
As for "openly" posting unacceptable material, that is not on. My God, I think we are all mature enough to know men can "joke" with other male members without being "suspected" as being "funny" (put your own word in there).Men as well as women can joke with one another that would be limited to their own particular gender.
Lastly I am disappointed to think people would pick holes in my post and make different suggestions as to my motive for the poll.
Then that is the "run" of the internet.


If I was presented with a poll like that I would give my answer and leave it at that without trying to discredit the poster, then I consider myself as mature. I am referring to a situation such as this and not the first poll I would arrive at on the net.

Just to add, I do not frequent chatrooms I hate the very name. To know a male or female lets "me" decide how to post to them, there are "things" men can joke or talk about harmlessly that a female would be deeply offended by.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 05:22 am
Lighten up, smoky. And put down that Guiness. I think you've had one too many.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 05:25 am
I confess to still being totally lost re the whole blue thing...
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 05:30 am
SG
I, for one didn't think anything out of the ordinary about your question. I understand that it is easier to reply to some posts if you know the gender. I was always curious myself to know if who I'm talking too is male or female, so I know where you're coming from.

I don't think anyone here meant to offend you in any way. I think they were just throwing questions out there. I hope you don't take any of it personally.
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smokingunne
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 05:37 am
"Blue" probably is over-stated, it was meant that you can joke with a male
in a way that women would be deeply offended.

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Lighten up, smoky. And put down that Guiness. I think you've had one too many.

I don't think so, I am too sensible to ever get into a state where I am not in control of my actions. You seem to understand it. :wink:

I'm sure most of you have been to a bar, imagine that situation, would you turn around to your female neighbour and tell her a "dirty" male joke or vice versa.
Don't come out all clean now, it happens in all company's.
Girl's night out, bluer than blue, at least that is the picture painted.
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SealPoet
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 05:47 am
For what it's worth... The body parts I am most interested in on-line are those between the ears.

"On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog."
-Cartoon from New Yorker
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 06:41 am
Hey, Irish. I enjoy being a woman. I completely understand why you asked the question. Knowing the gender of a person, as in real life, helps us to understand the various points of view from the male/female side of things, and lets face it folks, there is a difference. Having been raised in a very role defined environment, I find that it's still important to me. I don't care for subterfuge in any form, and never have. To me, it's part of the reason that we have the turmoil that we are experiencing and have experienced on this planet.
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fishin
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 06:45 am
Craven de Kere wrote:
< just trying out some cool new lines from "How to Score"by Mike Tyson >


Ooooo! You be takin' lessons from a baaaaad man! lol

Smokingunne - Don't take things the wrong way here. I'm not against the gender listings per se. I've just been on enough of these sites to know that most people generally don't think they are necessary.

One of the things I've also seen over the years is that those who frequent this sort of forum seem to be able to do quite a bit of bridging of the old "gender gap" just because the Internet is, in many ways, genderless. I used to concern myself about the difference in writing a comment steared towards a woman vs. a man but all of that just sort of washed to the side.

I'd hope you are taking anything being said here as any type of personal insult. These are all good people and they're just having some fun with the topic. Wink
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 06:52 am
I dunno...there is always the Jokes forum for anything that might be deemed offensive. Context is everything after all. Is it really that hard to figure out gender over the net? I'm not half the forum user that many of you are, I only really have time for A2K. However, getting to know you all through your posts, gender becomes obvious fairly quickly, no? Also, I would say that listing gender is completely unnecessary.
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smokingunne
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 07:01 am
:wink: Thanks Letty, a good understanding of my motive for poll.

fishin', I am also on different sites where the gender is displayed and I find it most helpfull.
I am not suggesting they are not good people, it seems more like one big family here than a forum of many races of people, but to read some of the comments, showing what the poster is thinking, I get dismayed. Sad
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 08:40 am
smokingunne, I'm really happy you're here, I hate to pick on you, but how else are we supposed to take this?

smokingunne wrote:
To know a male or female lets "me" decide how to post to them, there are "things" men can joke or talk about harmlessly that a female would be deeply offended by.


This is what was addressed, a few times. Like, unless you use PM, there is no way to pick your audience, anyway. Whatever you type can be read by 13-year-old boys and 70-year-old women. Like, there are women here who have a far more ribald sense of humor than some of the men. Like, if there is something that is potentially deeply offensive, it may well violate the TOS, in general. Like, if you really do make a mistake about gender, you need only say "sorry, I thought you were a guy!" and it's a wash. (I have, again, made numerous such mistakes.)

I am a little clearer now that you are saying it's more that you want to avoid flirtation...? That's the only reason I personally could think of for telling a dirty joke to a woman rather than a man... that I would have some concern that the man would think it was a come-on. Again, though, that's really not something you need to worry about here as a general concept. Some romantic entanglements do happen, but it's very rare.
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Eva
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 09:45 am
Just for the record, smokin'...

I'm a man. :wink: Laughing

(Couldn't you tell by the avatar?!)
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husker
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 11:06 am
Letty wrote:
Hey, Irish. I enjoy being a woman. I completely understand why you asked the question. Knowing the gender of a person, as in real life, helps us to understand the various points of view from the male/female side of things, and lets face it folks, there is a difference. Having been raised in a very role defined environment, I find that it's still important to me. I don't care for subterfuge in any form, and never have. To me, it's part of the reason that we have the turmoil that we are experiencing and have experienced on this planet.

I just love you Letty!
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 11:26 am
Well, Husker, I ain't no cheerleader, but you just touched my heart. Smile
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roger
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 11:53 am
I'm glad you're here too, smokingunne, but this time I think you are being oversensitive. If you had intended to post a poll without receiving comments, you were dreaming.
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CodeBorg
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2003 12:26 pm
For those still curious, a "blue" joke is one that is off-color or raunchy.

Sometimes a "blue" magazine is porn, but I think the term may be related to "blue laws" that some states use to regulate morality: can't sell alcohol after 2am or on Sundays, Sunday work must be paid overtime, 10pm curfew for anyone underage, etc., etc.

Perhaps related to:
blue adj. - 5. Severe or over strict in morals; gloom; as, blue and sour religionists; suiting one who is over strict in morals; inculcating an impracticable, severe, or gloomy mortality; as, blue laws.


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SG -- I hope nothing I said was taken personally or as an insult. My experience with IM chatting was just really notable and funny. I too can understand your motive for the poll, and think it's great that you're asking for everyone's opinions!

But honestly, choosing the right pronoun is the only difficulty I encounter in not knowing someone's gender. I find myself using "one", "they", and "their" much more often -- not a bad habit to practice anyways.

Most women I know are far raunchier with blue jokes than men, so I'm guessing our expectations and resulting demands may be a regional or cultural thing.

Also, if anyone identifies me as being "a man" or "a woman" I find the typical expectations, accusations, and severe limitations to be sexist and insulting. I am me. Please don't put me in a box.

The quality of my particular gender is absolutely unique. Every individual has a unique sexual identity, manifestation, appreciation, orientation, social role, and character.

No offense meant to anyone, I just don't want to encourage role games in my life. I'd rather speak to the person than to my expectation of the person. If more people were just themselves, genuine to their own nature, then we wouldn't have as much image-making, pretense, manipulation, abuse or violence in the world.

Again, that's just my opinion, in my situation.
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