@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Quote:However, most Americans do not feel that any deaths from American military actions are "good."
The two can not be equated logically, nor ethically.
They most surely can for these deaths have not come from military actions, they have come from terrorist actions, they have come based on the rapacious and greedy nature of US business interests. They are, in short, war crimes, crimes against humanity.
Quote:Plus, the extermination of German Jews was specifically a civil war against unarmed citizens.
As was Vietnam, as was Laos, as was the Philippines, as was Nicaragua, as was Cambodia, as was Chile, as was ... .
You live off myths, Foofie. You write foofieism after foofieism, all claptrap, designed to provide cover for one of the worst terrorist nations the world has ever seen.
You are changing arguments in midstream. What is, or is not, a war crime has nothing to do with whether any Americans feel "good" about any war crimes, while many Europeans felt "good" about the Final Solution.
And, your are incorrect about "Vietnam, as was Laos, as was the Philippines, as was Nicaragua, as was Cambodia, as was Chile," being a civil war like Germany had a civil war against German Jews. The only civil war America had was in the nineteenth century. We then killed Americans. I do not know what your point is. Perhaps, you should get back on topic for this thread, and not drag the United States into it. And, if I choose to be pro-Israel, because of my Jewish ancestry, that is mutually exclusive of my being American and conservative politically for the benefit of the United States.
You have never, to my recollection, explained why you are so bothered by military actions that the United States has effected? Oh yes, you are concerned about the world's humanity. Is that the same humanity that does not give a damn if you or I live or die? Do you realize that every U.S. citizen does not subscribe to your universal concerns about humanity? NOR, NEED WE SUBSCRIBE TO A UNIVERSAL CONCERN FOR HUMANITY. DO NOT DISENFRANCHISE ME FROM MY RIGHT TO PURSUE HAPPINESS. I AM HAPPY BY ONLY BEING CONCERNED ABOUT AMERICANS. And, no amount of your explaining the supposed evils of military actions by the U.S. will change my position.
Am I correct that you have not had much contact with Jewish Americans, as far as their feelings towards Israel? If you did, you might realize that you are wasting your breath with your position when posting to me.
Since I have identified myself as 1) Jewish (secular), 2) conservative politically, and 3) not subscribing to a universal concept of humanity's worth, could you do the same, since that would show that we are always going to talk at cross-purposes, and it might also show that while I, from my position do not care for your beliefs, you seem to have an overwhelming concern about other's beliefs. Thank goodness that there is no more draft. I believe you would have had a hard time getting along with the cross-section of America that one finds in the military, especially is one does not understand the value to MYOB (Mind Your Own Business).