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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
bulmabriefs144
 
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Sat 16 Jul, 2022 11:30 am
@izzythepush,
Says the literal Nazi who wants Jews to wander without a land, getting attacked everywhere they go.



"For we have have been promised a land of our own."

Who is the bigot here?
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izzythepush
 
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Sun 17 Jul, 2022 04:46 am
@Builder,
What about your inability to discuss anything without throwing mud.

You seem to be suggesting that because I my nationality I shouldn't be allowed an opinion on Israel because of what Arthur said long before I was born.

It proves you have nothing to say on the subject.

You might want to ask Bulgy why he should take advice from you when he doesn't believe you exist.

Flat Earthers believe Australia is a myth.

He might also want to ask why he calls me a Nazi but takes advice from a repulsive antisemite like you.

You lie about Jewish people taking over the world, you paraphrase The Protocols of Zion, bang on about the influence of the Rothschilds when conveniently ignoring all of the non Jewish bankers, financiers and the other uber rich.

You also make the ludicrous claim that the Saudi Crown Prince is Jewish.

I will not be wasting any more time on "Los Lobotos," because life to too short to spend staring down the dunny.
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Mon 18 Jul, 2022 07:41 am
@Builder,
Whenever I hear rabid antisemites talk about how Jews control government, the Balfour declaration (and how things played out) is a pretty good guide that no actually it's not Jews but ppl like Soros and Rothschild. Ethnically Jews only, but actually more in service of power than God. The tribe of Ham.

Under the Balfour declaration, the Jews "got" land, only to suddenly be unable to claim it because it was covered with Muslims. Then Hitler rounded them up because they had no land of theie own and were living in Europe. It was only after this, that they demanded what they'd been promised, and you still have the gall to say that Muslims earned this land?!? No, they usurped it!

Australia is right on flat Earth maps. I've told you this before.
https://i.etsystatic.com/23296436/r/il/2f348b/2313297850/il_fullxfull.2313297850_jupy.jpg
The land down under is not literally down under.

You are confusing Australia with Antarctica. Antarctica doesn't exist. It's a big endless wall of ice.

Builder
 
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Mon 18 Jul, 2022 06:23 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
They're zionists. As for Adolph "rounding them up", they were from Poland and Lithuania, and they were supposed to be moved to Palestine, in an attempt to outnumber the locals, to secure even more land for the zionists. Unsurprisingly, most said no. We know the rest of the story.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Tue 19 Jul, 2022 07:35 am
@Builder,
Right. Well the deal is basically laid out in this chick tract.
https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=1000

That is one of the more entertaining ones cuz it's like, "Now Egypt is a washed up country dwelling on past glories."

https://www.chick.com/images/tracts/1000/1000_10.gif
https://www.chick.com/images/tracts/1000/1000_12.gif
https://www.chick.com/images/tracts/1000/1000_13.gif
https://www.chick.com/images/tracts/1000/1000_14.gif

Basically, they promised the Jews a land, but didn't bother telling the residents they had 30 days to pack up. Meanwhile, a psychopath wants to kill them.

I think it's reasonable rhat when someone does a job you pay them, but leftists seem to not like that idea. After all, many of their schemes take from the rich who earned to give to poor slackers. They fancy themselves Robin Hood. But...
https://www.publish0x.com/deus-ex/robin-hood-is-capitalist-part-i-xpnrmkl
The rich in the story of Robin Hood is a state goon who enacts heavy taxes, just like modern socialists. Robin Hood takes from this king and gives back to struggling families on the fringe of poverty. He doesn't take from those who work and give to the moochers (some of the poor might be lazy, but the point is, Robin Hood isn't a statist tax schemer who holds up regular citizens).

https://i.imgflip.com/3rdz22.jpg
https://64.media.tumblr.com/6f490f97ad10417f83d0c7d0525b32fd/tumblr_ornrtttnM11w9v80eo1_540.jpg
https://i.imgflip.com/1ysnhg.jpg
Builder
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 02:27 am
@bulmabriefs144,
I got a good laugh out of that mess you posted.

It's pure propaganda, but with a definite slant.

The rest of the pap isn't worthy of comment.
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izzythepush
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 02:31 am
Far right "Christian," fundamentalists nominally support Israel but they're false friends. Their support is based on selective reading of Revelations and is dependent on the future forced conversion 9f Jewish people to Christianity,like the Inquisition.

Builder has no such problems because he believes David Icke is God.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 05:35 am
@izzythepush,
Says you.

(1) I rejected Revelation from my canon. I added in three other books instead.
(2) I do not not believe it is necessary to believe in Jesus to be saved.
(3) I still support Israel

I wonder if you'd like to take another crack at explaining that.
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revelette1
 
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Wed 20 Jul, 2022 01:15 pm
@izzythepush,
I agree with you, religious text of any religion shouldn't be used to justify anyone having a right to own land today. It is simply all too subjective.
bulmabriefs144
 
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Thu 21 Jul, 2022 11:19 am
@revelette1,
You're missing the point.

They earned this land. They helped supply 30,000 tons of raw material for gunpowder in exchange for a land for the Jewish people. The British people agreed, and the deal was supposed to be that they got land about the same area as God promised them. But they didn't hold up this deal, giving Muslims the majority of the land they were promised.
This is not about religious reasons. This is about contract law. If people do not keep contracts, society as a whole suffers.

**** the Muslim Palestinians. They literally did nothing to earn their land. They are people who occupied the land while the people who inhabited it traditionally were absent.

If you were evicted from your home that was left by your forefathers, not through legitimate failure to pay for the place but because the landlord hated that you were gay or something, and while you are in court trying to sue him for discrimination, a group decided to squat in your home. The court rules against you, but a businessman watching the trial is like "Tell you what, if you work for me for ten years, I will buy that land from the squatters." You do so, but after ten years, the squatters are still on that land, either through their persistence or the businessman not upholding his end. You have been in legal battles, and just done ten years of work. Is it "appropriation" to claim the land of your forefathers, which you have just worked for years to earn? Or do you have legal right to that land?

Do you honestly think that squatters have more right to a land than people who made a contract, worked for the land, and suffered for several years to try to get it back?
https://www.contractscounsel.com/b/contract-law
Under contract law, this is breach of contract.

Should not God hold them liable for the terms?
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PoliteMight
 
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Thu 21 Jul, 2022 02:19 pm
The physical state of Israel should not exist. You know the horror stories by heart, I do not have to repeat myself. Worst is how people commute to Israel to work mostly. What is funny is how I discovered that many people related to Israel vacations in Turkey, that is so odd. Everything is wrong about that place once you start to read and understand what is really occurring.

It is impossible to get around it. Chances are your income is being poured into Israel by your own choice of living standards.
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PoliteMight
 
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Tue 26 Jul, 2022 11:30 am
@bulmabriefs144,
You know exactly what I am saying. UN troops had no right to segregate Israel, nore anybody had the right to dump all of those refugees from WWII being dubbed Jews into another war. They literally told these people who was white as a rice, to fight for their land after being tossed out of Europe. Prior to that the whole Zionist movement brought the wealthy, rich, and creative to make an idea of cultural values in Palestine.

You talk about the WWII with Hitler doing what the Roman Empire should have done instead making a commodity out of those people as they did to every other people? The reality is that Jews was being breed like stock and eventually found their way integrated into Roman society, even into the dark ages, Mid-evil, and middle-ages. Italy ( old Rome ) became so diversified with so many groups of people. Only later years of the "cleansing" was anything restored which caused even more problems. Once upon a time Europe, Persia, the fertile-crescent of life was the apex of not only slavery but trade via slaves.

The other validation of why the Holocaust occur.

The truth is that one nation in which a Jew and a Islamic both ventured to ( forget the kingdom at the moment ) in which the Jewish rep poisoned the Islamic rep. Allowing for conversion of the entire kingdom entire Jewish. Thus creating the "White Jewish" ancestry outside the Roman Empire slave-trades and breeding programs.

The idea that maybe an Islamic related person gave Hitler the idea to exterminate the Jews, as a result of the above betrayal. Beyond the idea the Nazi's gave the opportunity for them to accept Jesus Christ. What little difference between missionaries who took over Hawaii, India, Korea, and other places within the world ??? Hitler wanted to just to relocate them all. Even so
the amount of Jewish people influx via Europe became less of equality and the racism of segregation. These was European people with Catholic mindset no matter Jewish or not creating the same racist atmosphere that was harvested via US black slavery.

Putting those facts together.
A. Jew poison Islamic
B. Islamic person gave Hitler the idea
C. The fleeing Europeans ( white people ) was practicing racism in Palestine
D. With the final nail in the coffin being the fall of Ottoman and the UN troops and refugees being dumped into this land literally starting another war that till this day is taking lives doubt and without understanding of equality.

The reality the holocaust occur because of the Jewish Money lenders who put France and Britain into debt. To make things worst WWI was really about giving a reason to attack Germania as the "Rich Bank of Germany" was being targeted. rather then claiming problems directed towards Jewish Money Lenders. The reality is that Jews hate, and resented the Roman empire and even Christianity via Catholic of the Roman empire and those in power ( money lenders ) allow for WWI to occur. WWI could have been prevented as it has been sighted as one of the most stupidest and meaningless wars in history. That did not stop royals from wanting more land and not just being happy with what they had or have gotten. The whole idea was motivated by the Technological advancements of the world itself. If anything as with big-tobacco and energy companies that are holding back the world from achieving green-peace or an ideal society.

The problem with Jews ( in general ) is that being classed a minority only because the less amount of people who are following the religion. While at the same time those investors, bsuiness-people, and anybody else within various programs continue to segregate themselves from other people ( especially non-jews ). While marketing the idea of progress, business, or actual momentum. Your willing to hire your own kind but when it comes to somebody else you do not want anything to do with them unless you promote them as being a minority so they could pretend they are "having a problem".

Miss Universe pageant was held in @#$#@$$ Israel while COVID happen. WTF????? Holy land my behind. It is a complete joke and a complete slap in the face to the world of pageantry.

Just like how President Dumb-arse ( the one with the robot-wife ) claimed that US recognize Israel as a nation of the Jews. Just to appease the brainwashed idiots who thinks that conservative equals to being heterosexual.

The stupidity that is staring you right in your face, that pretends to be human and pretends to actually have a heart.
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If modern day Israelis could just understand their well being in that area is a product of discrimination itself and they are living on the ashes of meaningless war and actually promote equality and respect in the Orient, then maybe we all could move on with our lives.

However the corruption ( no matter which way continues till this day ).

As my former classmate said to me ( who is Arabic and has a family who invest in various businesses ) " They bomb us and we bomb them ehhh whatever"
That is the current state of the Orient.
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The reality is that people are so dumbfoundingly brainwashed...
PoliteMight
 
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Tue 26 Jul, 2022 11:37 am
@bulmabriefs144,
Ever since UN troops rolled into Palestine their has been nothing but people dying for no reason at all. Great you believe in etc, it does not mean you need a piece of rock to determine any reality of your existence.

Do you understand this. Zionist even considered Tim-Buk-Tu as their building site. Do you #@!$ get it? The only reason why Palestinians was sending back people was because the influx of European ( white ) immigrants was too much to handle. They were starting to segregate ( be racist as with Isalmic Pakistan v. Hindu India civil-war ) the people and come with racist ideas from Europeans.

It is like how these immigrants from Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and other war torn places come to European nations. Then you have all these bs articles and propaganda. Then to make things worst you have lawyers backing these people who makes it into immigrant discrimination in which poor native Europeans are being given the shaft for their income, children education, and ability to live free.

Just like how France have ghettos filled with Haitian, Islamic, Black Jews, and other people in reference to Africans, turning their once nice lands into prison styled segregation.
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PoliteMight
 
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Tue 26 Jul, 2022 12:11 pm
@bulmabriefs144,
Your so brainwashed it is so sad. Donny Osmond despite any relationship to Judaism is more like a Southern Confederate sympathizer. In fact Disney even used him when he was young and into his elderly years he did tons of work for Disney.

Here is the bomb question? Did Donny Osmond had an alternative when getting paid for the usage of his vocals via "Mulan"????

This is the reason why Disney ( till this day ) are paying for the "Lion King" soundtrack to the singer in question. He was offered a one time payment but nowadays the amount of times they have to use that soundtrack he gets a check in the mail.

Would Donny Osmond be honest about that???

Is Disney or had or ever was discriminating about Osmond.





Nobody is saying that "Jews are to blame in general just because they are Jews".

People are saying

"Jews are working in a network where their actions are being favored preventing others to thrive unless they promote anything that Jews are being told to believe despite right or wrong, or pretends their is no problem occuring"

Nobody is saying "I want to kill your _______ because they are Jewish".

People are saying

"I want to kill your ______ because you are a scumbag in the way you congregate and do business"

...................................................................................................................

Imagine if you say ( I am trying to be universal with this response )

"Hello may I use your business for a project I am working on that revolves around my educational and income needs. I have been a consumer of your products for years and you know my family"

you respond by.

"Leave my property right now or else I am going to call the police"

............................................. or

"I am student and would like to gain temporary employment in your business. I have no convictions, I am trying to save my money towards college, and while I do not mind cleaning I would prefer a higher position like stock-boy, cashier, sales-rep, or something else towards my major

you respond by,

"bank robber"

......................................................................................................................

Me: May I __________ for my portfolio.
You: No I prefer not because I feel your going to _________( something negative ) to it. I am the head of the __________ museum ( which requires a master ).

Then you get into a show and find out this person is directing the event. They forget about and even offer you a coffee ( that is how limited their minds are ).

.....................................................................................................................

These are experiences I had ( still have to deal with ) when working towards my college education. It is almost like these people are making the assumption I sound be feared instead of loved. What do they all have in common ?

All of them are part of a religion.
All of them could be identified or even list themselves as being white some are reddish orange.
All of them are somewhat older people ( the noses, lack of hair, and garments )

I have more examples but the point is that I know they do not want anything to do with me because of religion.

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bulmabriefs144
 
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Tue 26 Jul, 2022 09:42 pm
@PoliteMight,
It was their land.

Then they worked for it.

Then someone ripped them off.

Oh great, a literal Hitler youth trying to justify the slaughter of millions of people. So, I'll remember that when you want an apartment of your own, not only do you not deserve an apartment, you deserve for thug randos to basically hunt you and all your family down.

This is the moral equivalent of what you just said.

A. **** the Muslims. They go around with bombs strapped to their chests making overtures to the effect of "convert your country to Islam or we'll show you what it's like to live under Islam." Uhhh, no thanks? In no country do the Jews do the same. They become bankers/tailors and the like. Muslims typically wind up on welfare because they needlessly restricted the sort of jobs they can do, usually just two things, gas and halal food. They lobby strongly to make food only halal, effectively controlling the food of a country, and giving themselves a corner for work in the country.
B. The rest of your argument is ****.

PoliteMight wrote:

Your so brainwashed it is so sad. Donny Osmond despite any relationship to Judaism is more like a Southern Confederate sympathizer. In fact Disney even used him when he was young and into his elderly years he did tons of work for Disney.

Here is the bomb question? Did Donny Osmond had an alternative when getting paid for the usage of his vocals via "Mulan"????

This is the reason why Disney ( till this day ) are paying for the "Lion King" soundtrack to the singer in question. He was offered a one time payment but nowadays the amount of times they have to use that soundtrack he gets a check in the mail.

Would Donny Osmond be honest about that???

Is Disney or had or ever was discriminating about Osmond.

Nobody is saying that "Jews are to blame in general just because they are Jews".

People are saying

"Jews are working in a network where their actions are being favored preventing others to thrive unless they promote anything that Jews are being told to believe despite right or wrong, or pretends their is no problem occuring"

Nobody is saying "I want to kill your _______ because they are Jewish".

People are saying

"I want to kill your ______ because you are a scumbag in the way you congregate and do business"

Imagine if you say ( I am trying to be universal with this response )

"Hello may I use your business for a project I am working on that revolves around my educational and income needs. I have been a consumer of your products for years and you know my family"

you respond by.

"Leave my property right now or else I am going to call the police"

"I am student and would like to gain temporary employment in your business. I have no convictions, I am trying to save my money towards college, and while I do not mind cleaning I would prefer a higher position like stock-boy, cashier, sales-rep, or something else towards my major

you respond by,

"bank robber"



You've got a lot of damned breaks that I have to scrub because it's ******* with my ADD.

First, Donny Osmond is an actor. The only point of this is that since the time of Joseph, they've wanted a land of their own. What did they do when they had it? Well, they expanded it into kingdom. Fine, whatever. What did Muslims do with land?



You're the one who is brainwashed. You believe the big states that think that a country that has no land of its own is unlawful to have any lands

I respond with nothing of the sort. If someone politely comes with a request (as Jews tend to do), why would I immediately jump to the conclusion they are bank robbers? Yet this is exactly what you are saying to the Jews. The Jews are honest, hard-working citizens, yet despite their work, they do not have their own country. The Muslims are thieves and murders, and have been for 1400 years. What need do they have for more lands?

A person with no priors, who is a student? A person who I know his family, and has patronized the store for years? Sure, fine, I can use some help I guess. A person who enters my country and tells me to give up my home, then I will fight back

You might call the police when someone is asking for help. But you're projecting your urban asshole values onto me. I wouldn't call the police unless someone gives me a very scary vibe. If a Muslim waves a weapon at me, telling me to give up my land or wife or both, I will call the police. Or shoot him.

Muslims are not suffering because Jewish actions are favored. Jews are largely ignored because they work and keep a low profile. Muslims actually have a discernible effect by population.

When Jews obtain a majority in an area, the area simply becomes Jewish. They sell kosher food, they keep Sabbath, and Gentiles typically leave them alone except to shop. My dad lived near a Jewish area. None of them bothered him. They were kinda weird, but he didn't mind them.

Meanwhile, this is what happens when Muslims are in countries, by population.
https://shoebat.com/2011/07/02/what-to-expect-the-effect-of-muslim-population-growth-on-a-society/
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As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

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At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

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From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

At just 5%, Muslims move from "mostly peaceful" to "active radicalizing minority groups" to "a major presence." And it gets worse...

Quote:
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.

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After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues


By 20%, other places of worship are burned. Keep in mind, that Israel has around 16%, and are constantly fighting Muslims for their own country. So this can be worse than the statistics.

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From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels

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After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim


Ethnic cleansing. But everything's gonna be cool once only Muslims are there, right? Wrong.

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100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools.

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.



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izzythepush
 
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Sat 6 Aug, 2022 11:10 am
Gaza in in flames now. The IDF are conducting strikes against Islamic Jihad, their leader has been killed along with a five year old child.

Prisoners have also been seized in raids.

Gaza's only power sration has stopped generating, having run out of fuel, in what looks like collective punishment for the whole of the Gazan population.

So far Hamas, which is in effective control of Gaza, hasn't responded.

The BBC has categorised them as similar, but I would disagree.

Hamas are territorial, primarily concerned with the establishment of a Palestinian state, albeit one quite conservative Islamic state.

Islamic Jihad also want that, but they're more aligned to global jihadic groups like Al Qaida, IS and Boko Haram.

At time of pistinb Hanas still hasn't fired any ro kets into Isradl all 300 odd rockets have been fired by Islamic Jihad.
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revelette1
 
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Mon 13 Feb, 2023 10:20 am
I know little to nothing about the history expressed on this page.

However, I can read current events and form an opinion from there.

Israel to authorise nine ‘wild’ West Bank settlements

I mean, why does it continue to acceptable for Israel to just say, this part of the land we claim, they build settlements and cultivate it, and they are allowed to keep doing it because they can? We continue to pay lip service to Palestinian's rights, but actually never do anything at all about it, while Israel just keeps claiming more land. And then when Palestinians stand up for their rights and bombs Israel because no one else will, they get condemned while Israel just keeps on getting more land and oppressing and killing Palestinians. No end in sight.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Mon 13 Feb, 2023 12:02 pm
@revelette1,
Israel projects American power in the Middle East.

They are the most reliable ally in the region.

They also receive a considerable amount of military aid, which is spent on American hardware with all the knock on effects of jobs, research and development etc.

On top of that Israel has very powerful lobbying bodies. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee has a lot of sway in Congress.

They are very good at conflating criticism of Israel with antisemitism, George Washington University is being taken to court by The American - Arab anti discrimination Commitee for colluding with a far right Israeli lobbying group, StandWithUs, over a federal complaint accusing one of their lecturers of antisemitism.

On Able2Know people like Oralloy dismiss the slightest criticism of Israel as antisemitic while refusing to condemn, or even comment on, Holocaust denial from a fellow far right gun nut.
 

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