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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
revelette2
 
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Sat 5 Mar, 2016 09:20 am
Israel demolishes West bank homes displacing 36 Palestinians
oralloy
 
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Sat 5 Mar, 2016 05:14 pm
@revelette2,
It sure is a shame that the Palestinians refuse to ever make peace with Israel.

But since the Palestinians refuse to make peace, Israel may as well put the land to good use.
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RABEL222
 
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Sat 5 Mar, 2016 08:51 pm
@revelette2,
Neyetenyahoo is at it again. Time for the U S politicians to start kissing his ass with more money so he can afford to tear down more palistianian homes.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 5 Mar, 2016 09:08 pm
@RABEL222,
Doesn't that frost your ba......! People who have never visited Israel doesn't know it's not a democracy, although all of our government reps say it is, and give them millions every year. They don't understand why Middle East Muslims hate the US.
Israel continue to expand their settlements into Palestinian lands. That's a crime by international law as well as most democracies. They built a huge wall surrounding Bethlehem and Gaza. Trump wants to build a wall too!
Go to in any search engine: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Israel's+walls&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
And they're both popular.
Go figure.
oralloy
 
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Sat 5 Mar, 2016 11:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Israel continue to expand their settlements into Palestinian lands.

The deal is "Land For Peace". If the Palestinians want Israel to give up the land, they have to be willing to make peace with Israel in exchange for it.

So long as the Palestinians refuse to make peace with Israel, Israel is just going to use all the land for themselves.
Saied123098
 
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Sun 6 Mar, 2016 04:39 am
@Robert Gentel,
i guess the solution for middle east its quite easy .
leave them alone with no news no media and no gun .
big countries big news network they was focus in meddle ease for years supporting valiance hating resist all that kind of staff , but they never let them to solve there own problem by the excuse they are dangerous and that kind of lies to make open market area for any thing you can sell or got from there with no obvious rule because there is chaos .
but if the world just leave them with out every minutes news about meddle east supporting by gone drugs heating warming .
of corse they will find sloution they was already living with each other muslim with jews with Christians with different kind of believing.
before Israel Plastian Iraq Syria and Lebanon come to exist.
so i guess if they just leave this area for a while and care about the true problem in the world like medical uncared Diseases , the future of natural tree , the production of food it will be enough for future for every body million of topic they are more important in the table then the meddle east problem will slove its self .
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revelette2
 
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Sun 6 Mar, 2016 08:31 am
@RABEL222,
I admit I just don't get our slavish devotion and support with aid and weapons and anything else they need when it serves no useful purpose and by extension, we end up sanctioning the oppression of Palestinians. It is like we keep feeding the monster we created and just mouth words of objection to Israel making more settlements and unjust issues. We always vote no on any UN resolution regarding Palestine. I don't see why in the world they would trust a word we say when we try to affect peace.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 6 Mar, 2016 12:40 pm
@revelette2,
amen to that! People are just lazy or blind to the happenings in Israel. It's a shame and a crime.
oralloy
 
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Sun 6 Mar, 2016 05:31 pm
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:
I admit I just don't get our slavish devotion and support with aid and weapons and anything else they need when it serves no useful purpose

It serves two very useful purposes. First, it helps our good friends defend themselves from the oppression of a relentless enemy.

Second, it helps to stabilize the region. Were Israel to be weaker, they would have to be more proactive about smashing threatening enemies, and their enemies would be more eager to attack them. By making Israel strong, we prevent many more Middle Eastern wars from happening.


revelette2 wrote:
and by extension, we end up sanctioning the oppression of Palestinians.

The Palestinians are hardly being oppressed. If they want peace, all they have to do is agree to stop murdering people.


revelette2 wrote:
We always vote no on any UN resolution regarding Palestine.

Said resolutions are generally anti-Semitic abominations.


revelette2 wrote:
I don't see why in the world they would trust a word we say when we try to affect peace.

They who?

People trust us because we are the good guys and because we've worked so hard to achieve peace.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 6 Mar, 2016 05:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The facts:
Annexation of Jerusalem

source: UN

Following the 1967 war, Israel created what it calls “Greater Jerusalem.” It did this by expanding the borders of East Jerusalem to include surrounding areas of the West Bank where the Palestinian population was minimal. It annexed this new “Jerusalem,” and declared it to be it’s capitol.

Since 1967, Israel has established numerous illegal settlements in this “Greater Jerusalem,” thereby ensuring a Jewish majority in the city. While the municipal government encourages the construction of new Jewish homes in the city, Palestinian families (many of whom have lived in Jerusalem for centuries) are rarely able to acquire the permits necessary to build new homes and are only allowed to live in certain areas of the city due to systematic discrimination against non-Jewish citizens..
RABEL222
 
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Sun 6 Mar, 2016 06:20 pm
@oralloy,
Netenyahoo says no peace until every palistianian is dead and he has confenscated all the land in the middle east. And screw those unamerican citizens who disagree with their government re Israel. Remember the U S S Liberty because our congress sure as hell dident.
oralloy
 
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Sun 6 Mar, 2016 07:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
While the municipal government encourages the construction of new Jewish homes in the city, Palestinian families (many of whom have lived in Jerusalem for centuries) are rarely able to acquire the permits necessary to build new homes and are only allowed to live in certain areas of the city due to systematic discrimination against non-Jewish citizens..

The Palestinians will be free to set up their own country once they make peace with Israel.

Until then, Israel is going to use the land for their own purposes.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 6 Mar, 2016 07:33 pm
@RABEL222,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtgKjSHR6D8
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 7 Jun, 2016 04:56 am
Testimonies: Prior to incident for which Elor Azaria is facing charges, Ramzi al-Qasrawi was also executed
Published:
6 Jun 2016

http://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20160606_claims_of_additional_execution_in_hebron_incident

On 24 March 2016, ‘Abd al-Fatah a-Sharif and Ramzi al-Qasrawi were killed by soldiers’ gunfire in the Tel Rumeida neighborhood in Hebron. They were shot after they stabbed a soldier who, according to media reports, sustained light injuries. The incident was widely covered by the media thanks to video footage shot by B’Tselem volunteer ‘Imad Abu Shamsiyeh, in which a soldier can be seen executing the injured a-Sharif, shooting him in the head. The shooter, Elor Azaria, is currently on trial for manslaughter for his actions.

The footage of the incident that B’Tselem released in March began at a point in time in which the second assailant, Ramzi al-Qasrawi was already dead. The military has recently lifted the strict travel restrictions imposed on Tel Rumeida, so for the first time since the incident, B’Tselem field researcher Manal al-Ja’bri was able to get into the neighborhood and collect testimonies from its residents. The testimonies of two of residents, Nur Abu ‘Eishah and Amani Abu ‘Eishah, raise concerns that al-Qasrawi was also executed with a shot to the head, as he lay injured on the ground after having been hit by gunfire elsewhere in his body.

The two stated that, on the day of the incident, they began following events after they heard gunshots from the street. They said that after both a-Sharif and al-Qasrawi were lying injured on the road, clearly posing no danger to anyone, and even before additional troops and the paramedics arrived on the scene, a soldier (or officer) went up to al-Qasrawi and shot him twice in the neck or head from several meters away. Later on in this incident, both saw Azaria shooting a-Sharif in the head, an action that was captured on ‘Imad Abu Shamsiyeh’s camera.

The two eyewitnesses, both B’Tselem volunteers, documented parts of the incident with their cameras, but not the moment al-Qasrawi was shot. They both circulated the footage on social media immediately after the incident, and Nur Abu ‘Eishah was even interviewed shortly thereafter in the Palestinian press. Given how long it’s been since the incident and the gravity of the allegations, B’Tselem made clear to Nur Abu ‘Eishah and Amani Abu ‘Eishah that the military probably had footage of the entire incident on it security cameras located in the area, and that this footage could corroborate or disprove their accounts. Both witnesses repeated their testimony and said they were prepared to testify before any official body if summoned.


One of the video segments filmed by Nur Abu ‘Eishah


Amani Abu ‘Eishah’s video footage

Since the most recent wave of violence began in October 2015, a good number of instances were caught on video showing executions of Palestinians who stabbed or were suspected of stabbing Israeli security personnel or civilians. (For more on this subject see B’Tselem’s report of December 2015). In other cases, executions were alleged, but since there was no video footage, B’Tselem was unable to confirm the allegations. Many of these cases were captured on the military’s security cameras which are permanently installed in various locations throughout the West Bank, such as checkpoints or downtown Hebron. B’Tselem has no access to this footage, but it is available to the military, which for the most part takes pains not to make it public.

This material is also available to the military’s investigating authorities, which as a rule choose to ignore it. There have been many reports since October of a policy permitting shoot-to-kill in incidents in which Palestinians harmed, or attempted to harm, Israeli security personnel or civilians, even when there is no clear and immediate mortal danger or if the danger can be overcome without resorting to a lethal outcome. Nevertheless, to date, these cases are hardly ever investigated, and no civilian or member of the security forces has faced charged for implementing his policy. The case of Sgt. Azaria, whose trial is still underway, is the one exception. But what is far more grave is that this open-fire policy has the full backing of senior civil and military officials. Israeli law enforcement authorities, both military and civilian, prefer not to deal with these cases, instead, shutting their eyes to this reality, thereby granting it legitimacy and enabling it to carry on.
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revelette2
 
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Mon 20 Jun, 2016 09:16 am
West Bank Palestinians Without Clean Water After Israel Cuts Off Supplies

My question is why?
RABEL222
 
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Tue 21 Jun, 2016 03:31 pm
@revelette2,
Easy question to answer Rev. This causes anger. And teenagers start throwing rocks. And the isralie solders say, see, see, their attacking us with those dangerous rocks and proceed to shoot them with their lead and steel bullets. Its called manufacturing excuses to kill palestinains. They have been doing it since the 1960's.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 28 Jun, 2016 09:59 am
Founder of Breaking the Silence: Israeli settlers poisoning Palestinian water


http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/787/798.html?hp=1&cat=404&loc=1

Video: https://twitter.com/IMTIzionism/status/743029621646610432

Left-wing organization " Breaking the Silence " distributor claims that the settlers are poisoning the drinking water of the Palestinians - according to a video clip of one plant group right " to here ", published for the first time today (Tuesday) on the site NRG.

Video, filmed in a little less than two years ago, the voice of one of the founders of "Breaking the Silence", Yehuda Shaul , group leaders in the West Bank, near the village of Sussia. He tells his audience that the residents of a Palestinian village in the Hebron Hills just recently returned to their homes after the settlers poisoned their drinking water system a few years ago, and the Palestinians were forced to leave their homes.
cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 28 Jun, 2016 10:49 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Yetinyahoo is to blame. Where are all the fair minded Jews?
izzythepush
 
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Tue 28 Jun, 2016 02:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Where are all the fair minded Jews?


Bringing it to the attention of the World.

Quote:
Left-wing organization " Breaking the Silence " distributor claims that the settlers are poisoning the drinking water of the Palestinians


Quote:
Breaking The Silence (BtS) (Hebrew: שוברים שתיקה‎‎ Shovrim Shtika) is an Israeli Non-Governmental Organization (NGO), located in a western section of Jerusalem, established by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) soldiers and veterans who collect and provide testimonies about their military service in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem since the Second Intifada, giving serving and discharged Israeli personnel and reservists a platform to confidentially describe their experience in the Israeli-occupied territories.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_the_Silence_(non-governmental_organization)
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Sun 3 Jul, 2016 10:47 pm
Ehud Barak SLAMS Bibi Netanyahu
From Politico.....

Netanyahu vs. the Generals

Ehud Barak hadn’t given a speech in months, and speculation was rife about what he was going to say when he took the stage at a prestigious policy conference in Herzliya, an affluent suburb of Tel Aviv, two weeks ago. Barak was one of Israel’s leading political figures for two decades, having served as the country's prime minister in the late 1990s and later as defense minister under Benjamin Netanyahu from 2009 to 2012. Was he about to announce a political comeback?

It turned out that Barak, a former special ops commando officer, had one last mission in mind: To take out his former boss and partner.

In his speech, Barak accused Netanyahu of cowardice, opportunism and fear-mongering. He warned that Israel's current government, arguably the most right wing in its history, was showing “signs of fascism,” and that if Netanyahu wasn’t stopped, Israel was on course to become an apartheid state. “The entire Zionist project is in grave danger,” he proclaimed. And the main source of that danger wasn't Israel’s external enemies, but rather its own democratically elected leader.

Barak hasn’t let up since. “Netanyahu,” he said in a televised interview broadcast a day after his angry speech, “has gone off the rails. He needs to go.”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/netanyahu-prime-minister-obama-president-foreign-policy-us-israel-israeli-relations-middle-east-iran-defense-forces-idf-214004
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