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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 06:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Yeah, tell that to the dead boys parents:
Quote:
Friday, December 17, 2010
Israeli forces shoot Palestinian teen dead on fishing boat
Ma’an- A Palestinian boy died Friday afternoon after Israeli gunboats opened fire on his fishing boat and flipped it over off the coast of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.


I guess that's the end of his weapons smuggling activities.....
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 06:49 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:
Those Jews who are anti-Arab are also anti-semitic as Arabs are also Semites.


Nope. Anti-Semitism refers to the hatred that you Nazi types spew at Jews.
talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 06:52 pm
@oralloy,
You guys always want exclusive use of anti-semitism. Hitler had Jewish roots so you really can't play that theme all the time.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 06:57 pm
@oralloy,
"Nazi types?" Wow, that's really going buzzerk over this issue. "Anti-Semitic" isn't enough for you all?
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 07:49 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:
You guys always want exclusive use of anti-semitism.


"You guys" refers of course to those people who possess basic human decency.

Anti-Semitism refers to the hatred that you Nazi types spew at Jews, and that's all it means.



talk72000 wrote:
Hitler had Jewish roots


Does that make you cry?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 07:51 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
"Nazi types?" Wow, that's really going buzzerk over this issue. "Anti-Semitic" isn't enough for you all?


If you don't like being presented with facts, don't go challenging reality. If you do choose to challenge reality, some honest person is bound to come along and point out the facts.
talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 07:55 pm
@oralloy,
You heard of the Israel lobby? How did it get so powerful? It is the Jewish bankers like Rothchilds, Warburg and Wall Street manipulation of the stock market and the takeover of American business. Don't tell it is not an invasion by sleeper cells?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 08:16 pm
@oralloy,
You're the one who can't accept the realities of what Israel is: 1) they are not a democracy, 2) they kill young children, 3) they steal Palestinian lands, and 4) they have broken most international and UN laws.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 09:01 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:
You heard of the Israel lobby? How did it get so powerful? It is the Jewish bankers like Rothchilds, Warburg and Wall Street manipulation of the stock market and the takeover of American business. Don't tell it is not an invasion by sleeper cells?


Ah, the foul stench of anti-Semitism.....
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 09:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
You're the one who can't accept the realities of what Israel is:


Your hate speech is not reality.



cicerone imposter wrote:
1) they are not a democracy,


Yes they are.



cicerone imposter wrote:
2) they kill young children,


There may be rare occasions where a young child is killed by accident as the Israelis defend themselves from Palestinian murderers, but the only ones who intentionally kill children are the Palestinians.



cicerone imposter wrote:
3) they steal Palestinian lands,


Nope. To begin with, the West Bank is Israel's homeland, so the Palestinians are the only ones stealing land here.

And more importantly, the land would be handed over to the Palestinians if they ever made peace. Since the Palestinians refuse to make peace, the Israelis are free to use the land as they please.



cicerone imposter wrote:
4) they have broken most international and UN laws.


They may have broken some. Preposterous to claim "most".

The Arabs and the Palestinians break the same laws. Funny how you never complain about that.

In addition, the Arabs and the Palestinians break the prohibitions against targeting civilians, which is something that the Israelis don't do.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 12:28 pm
@oralloy,
It's not a "hate speech" when they are factual. Live with it. The sources for most of the information I provided is available on Google. If you can't live with the truth, you have already lost your humanity.
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 03:48 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Ah, the foul stench of anti-Semitism.....


Can't accept the nastiness of Jewish bankers, eh? You guys completely play that victim theme -anti-semitism which doesn't exclusively identify Jews but Arabs as well while you Jews victimize people thru the banking system. The names in Wall Street circle are mostly Jewish.


Quote:
Among the economic fields in which Jews today are especially visible is investment banking -- "Wall Street," including interconnected networks of lawyers and other legal and economic manipulators stretching deeply into Hollywood and the mass media. Since the 1800s the "Old Crowd" of German-Jewish banking families (the Seligmans, Lehmans, Goldmans, Sachs, Warburgs, Schiffs, Loebs, et al) had predominated the field; a "New Crowd" of Jews has in recent decades taken their place. After World War II, melodramatically note Judith Ehrlich and Barry Rehfeld, "economic power in America and Wall Street was shifting ... Fresh faces came forward as if answering a call ... They were the children and grandchildren of Italian, Irish, Poles, and other Europeans who were not of Anglo-Saxon ancestry. But most of all they were Jews." [EHRLICH, p. 12] This is not to suggest of course that the seminal Jewish American investment firms are today inconsequential. Far from it. In 1999, for instance, Goldman, Sachs and Co. stretched across the world to become the "single largest and controlling shareholder of South Korea's largest bank, Kookmin. [BLOOMBERG NEWS, p. 11]

"In the world of high finance," observed Gerald Krefetz, "Jewish interest is concerned with investment banking, a broad catchall for activities ranging from tendering advice to underwriting securities. The heart of investment banking is public offerings and private placements, the risking of capital -- sometimes ones' own, but more often other peoples' -- to finance new companies, or expand old ones." [KREFETZ, p. 54] The nature of Wall Street entrepreneurship might well be presumed in the title of a 1986 volume by Ken Auletta: Greed and Glory on Wall Street: the Fall of the House of Lehman, or Martin Meyer's Nightmare on Wall Street: Salomon Brothers and the Corruption of the Marketplace (1993). Both Lehman and Solomon are Jewish-founded firms.


http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/22wallst.htm

The question is are you loyal to America or Israel? It is honorable for a jew to defend Israel but not to trick non-Jews to fight Israel's enemies. If your loyalty is to Israel by all means go to Israel and defend it but don't dress as an Arab and incite violence as an Arab or bomb property leaving Arab clues. A Polish friend mentioned how the Soviets used that trick in the WWII.
talk72000
 
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Reply Tue 28 Dec, 2010 04:08 pm
@talk72000,
Quote:
Many of the Jewish houses on Wall Street were originally the American branches of long established houses in Germany and Austria. These international firms were accustomed to support one another with capital, and maintained other intimate associations. Some of them are linked by intermarriage. But the bond above all is the Jewish racial bond. Most of these houses received a severe setback during the war, because their over-sea associations were not of the right kind. But this setback is expected to be only temporary, and the Jewish financiers will again be ready to give battle for the entire financial control of the United States.


http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ij24.htm
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 03:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

As that the only thing you can come up with? You're not only a child of ignorance, but are a admitted bigot.


CI, you of all people should not call others anti-Semites. You have stereotyped Jews before, saying that they tend to be acquisitive. To me, that makes you an anti-Semite. You have never had a good word for Jews, Israelis, or Israel. Obviously, you would love to see Israel destroyed, and may even join in the fight for this.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 04:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Yeah, sure, collateral damage. What a shame!


CI, you are obviously the ignorant biggoted person here. BTW, the Israeli children, along with women and the elderly, killed when the pizza and bingo parlors were blown up by the Pals were hardly collateral. They were targeted by the Pals over and over again. Israel has never targeted children.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 04:06 pm
@Advocate,
If I'm the only bigotted person here, you have no conception of bigotry.
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 05:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
It's not a "hate speech" when they are factual.


Not necessarily. However, there are no facts to be found in your hate speech, so no reason to argue the point.



cicerone imposter wrote:
Live with it.


No. Part of being a good person means that I will unfailingly denounce your hate speech.



cicerone imposter wrote:
The sources for most of the information I provided is available on Google.


I'm not interested in your favorite hate sites.



cicerone imposter wrote:
If you can't live with the truth, you have already lost your humanity.


Yes. You are quite inhuman.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 05:21 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:
Oralloy wrote:
Ah, the foul stench of anti-Semitism.....


Can't accept the nastiness of Jewish bankers, eh?


Phew.... you Nazis sure do stink.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 05:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
If I'm the only bigotted person here, you have no conception of bigotry.


He didn't say you were the *only* bigoted person here. For instance, that Nazi creep is a lot worse than even you are.

However, your anti-Semitism is pretty repugnant.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 05:27 pm
@oralloy,
I like being called anti-Semitic by stupid people like you, because it shows clearly that a) you're ignorant about Israel, and b) you have no ethics or humanity.
 

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