Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

That would almost be as unhuman as the way the State of Israel treats Palestinians now.

Gee, it sure is awful when Palestinians aren't allowed to run around murdering innocent people. The horror!

Can't you ever stop lying about Israel?

revelette2 wrote:

I don't pretend to know the answers that have eluded better minds than mine by far for all these many decades.
I do think it is past time to go around Israel in getting the Palestinians a viable state.

Israel has the right to meet such aggression with military force.

Hopefully Israel will answer any attempt to unilaterally create a Palestinian state, by unilaterally seizing back all of Area B. Any unilaterally-created Palestinian state can be composed of Area A alone. If you want to refer to that as viable, you go right ahead.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

Good post, with some good points.

Maybe if one is fond of Nazi screeds....

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

Seek counseling for your persecution complex.

An oppressive, ethnocentric state isn't the remedy.

And, why would I give credence to the opinion of someone that doesn't proverbially have a dog in the hunt? Especially when the solution offered is a "win-lose" solution, as many people would think.

I do have a dog in this hunt. My country is in full support of the Zionists, which I am against.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

Your delusions are not history.

Since only in recent history have "the Jews" suffered a Holocaust of such proportions, their collective mental health might require a unique solution. That being Zionism. Yes, some Jews might not want Gentiles for neighbors. And, DECENT Gentiles might just honor that feeling. Like I would not want to give you the right time, if you asked me. Simple solution for a bad marriage - divorce.

Bigotry doesn't justify the Zionists discrimination against and oppression of the Palestinian peoples.

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@neologist,

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But if you failed to recognized the power of Christian Zionism in creating and maintaining this debacle, then you are the one who has failed to keep up.

Then I have failed to keep up . Christian Zionism fluctuated through the years and seems to have been waning at the time of the creation of the Jewish state . It has grown stronger since then but I doubt it has the numbers or the money to counter the Muslim population of the world and the oil money .

There just may be supporters of Israel who believe it is the right thing . Perhaps even agnostics like myself, with no other motive then helping .

I have previously stated how to fix it . Israel is going nowhere without the biggest bloodbath the Middle East has seen yet . If we cant move the Jews (again !?) then move the Palestinians . Resettle them in Jordan and Lebanon, countries that are effectively Palestinian .

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@revelette2,

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Giving Palestinians their rights would solve problems, not murdering Israelis.

Who is going to tell the Palestinian Rocket Corps ?

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@Ionus,

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@RABEL222,
Rabies666 ! Where you been ? I missed your contribution via personal attacks . You do know that even the dull and ignorant like yourself can still be right . Why dont you try to contribute with objective facts . There's a good looney !

This was an factual attack on the fact I posted? You sure showed me how much more intelligent you are than me. Im sure that I will be afraid to post against you in the future. Rolling Eyes

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@RABEL222,

Your Post :

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He made them up in order to change the subject. A tactic that Oralboy and his ilk use to confuse facts.

You think that is a factual post .
You havent proven any facts were made up . You havent proven anyone else uses those tactics, but in your mind you are doing well . You simply stated your opinion during a personal attack and you dont get it ?

Sad .

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@Ionus,

If they had an actual viable state, there would be no reason to murder Israelis in an attempt to get out from underneath the oppression of Israel.

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@Ionus,

Ionus wrote:

Your Post :

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He made them up in order to change the subject. A tactic that Oralboy and his ilk use to confuse facts.

You think that is a factual post .
You havent proven any facts were made up . You havent proven anyone else uses those tactics, but in your mind you are doing well . You simply stated your opinion during a personal attack and you dont get it ?

Sad .

This Rabel222 character engages in childish name-calling because he isn't smart enough to come up with anything useful.

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

If they had an actual viable state, there would be no reason to murder Israelis in an attempt to get out from underneath the oppression of Israel.

Your lies ignore the fact that the Palestinians are not trying to get out from underneath any oppression (unless you count it as oppression when you are told that you can't run around murdering people for fun).

If the Palestinians were after an actual viable state, they would have accepted it when it was being endlessly offered by Israel over and over and over during the 14 year span from 2001 to 2014.

Palestinians murder people because they think it is fun to kill people, and not for any other reason.

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@oralloy,

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If the Palestinians were after an actual viable state, they would have accepted it when it was being endlessly offered by Israel over and over and over during the 14 year span from 2001 to 2014.

That's a lie. Israel has never negotiated in good faith since Rabin's death.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

That's a lie.

The only liars here are you thugs who deny Israel's past peace offers.

Olivier5 wrote:

Israel has never negotiated in good faith since Rabin's death.

Israel negotiated in good faith for decades, and the only thing they ever got for it is your lies about them.

Now the negotiations are over, and instead of getting a viable state, the Palestinians are going to get what they deserve.

And never has a pack of vicious fiends more deserved their fate.

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@revelette2,

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If they had an actual viable state, there would be no reason to murder Israelis in an attempt to get out from underneath the oppression of Israel.

I see . They bare no responsibility for murdering Israelis and their fellow Palestinians...it is all the fault of those big nosed Jews . They are forced to murder .

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@Ionus,

I didn't say that. If the Palestinians have a state of their own, fully under their control with reasonable borders and resources, they would have no reason to keep waging war on Israel. I am sure the people of Palestine are just like anyone else and would like to live in peace and have a chance for prosperity rather than continual wars and poverty. Having a viable Palestinian state is a much better way to "solve problems" than never ending killing and revenge killing. It would be peace for Israel and Palestine.

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@revelette2,

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I am sure the people of Palestine are just like anyone else

You mean like any other Muslims . How many failed Muslim states are there at the moment ? And you want to make another one .

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

If the Palestinians have a state of their own, fully under their control with reasonable borders and resources, they would have no reason to keep waging war on Israel.

The Palestinians already have no reason to wage war on Israel. The only reason the Palestinians wage war is because they think it's fun to kill innocent people.

revelette2 wrote:

I am sure the people of Palestine are just like anyone else and would like to live in peace and have a chance for prosperity rather than continual wars and poverty.

Your lies can't change the reality that the only thing the Palestinians want is to murder innocent people for fun.

revelette2 wrote:

Having a viable Palestinian state is a much better way to "solve problems" than never ending killing and revenge killing. It would be peace for Israel and Palestine.

You just want the Palestinians to attain a position where they can better attack Israel.

That's not going to happen. The unilateral creation of a Palestinian state will result in unilateral moves on Israel's part in order to protect themselves.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

Foofie wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:

Your delusions are not history.

Since only in recent history have "the Jews" suffered a Holocaust of such proportions, their collective mental health might require a unique solution. That being Zionism. Yes, some Jews might not want Gentiles for neighbors. And, DECENT Gentiles might just honor that feeling. Like I would not want to give you the right time, if you asked me. Simple solution for a bad marriage - divorce.

Bigotry doesn't justify the Zionists discrimination against and oppression of the Palestinian peoples.

You might not have caught your pluralization of the word "Palestinian peopleS" above, but that is quite true. Many are an amalgam of Arab people that only came there post late nineteenth century when the arrival of Russian Zionists got many Arabs worried that the swallows were returning to Capistrano, so to speak.

Did the Palestianian people have a problem when they were under Jordan, pre-1967? It is fairly obvious that the Palestinians do not like to be under the hegemony of Jews. That is like asking some upscale Christian Americans to work for a Jewish owned company. How does one explain that to one's club friends?

I am ending this discussion. May the best gene pool win.

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@Foofie,

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May the best gene pool win.

-- Adolf Hitler

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

May the best gene pool win.

Like I said earlier, Zionist ideology shares the same 19th century European ethnocentic nationalist roots as the Nazis.

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