Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

What/who were the forces behind it?

Israel shouldn't be secured. Israel should be dismantled, it's leadership prosecuted for the oppression of the Palestinian peoples, and replaced by a truly democratic, egalitarian and pluralistic state that serves the interests of all of the peoples of Palestine.

The endeavor to preserve Israel as a "Jewish state" is informed by ethnocentric nationalist ideologies that originated in Europe during the 19th century. It's most grotesque manifestation was the Nazi nationalism of Germany during the mid twentieth century. Israel's supporters cling to these ethnocentric nationalist notions as they hold out for Israel's ethnic purity and their rejection of the Palestinian's Right of Return.

Yes and I think I gave the two main reasons for Israel where it is, the fundamental Christian belief of which you refer occurred AFTER the formation of Israel .

Why do I get the impression you want to say something ?

Why do I get the impression you want to say something ? Ideas come and go, show me a direct linkage fromWW2 fundamental Christianity to the forming of Israel . Dont forget to factor in the anti-Jewish sentiment of a lot of Christian Churches, and explain why the pro-Jewish won the day as you suggest .

Catholic theology, if I understand it, made Jews "expendable,"

German Catholics to assuage any possible guilt/remorse for acting like blonde beasts

The American Evangelical churches have a need to differentiate themselves from liberal Protestant and Catholic churches to get converts.

The EU relationship with the US

The EU and its Member States have been held back from a more proactive stance on Israel/Palestine by three major considerations: their lack of consensus on the issue, their focus on newer and apparently more urgent Middle East crises and their reluctance to get out in front of the United States in an area where Washington has always insisted on prime ownership. These three drawbacks now need to be addressed directly. The absence of any credible negotiation process, combined with the desperate condition of the Occupied Territories, the eroding international legitimacy of the Israeli approach and the instability of the wider region, requires a fresh examination of EU policy. The fact that American efforts over more than two decades have achieved virtually nothing by way of justice for the Palestinians or long-term security for Israel means that European interests have also suffered. This needs to be recognised in a new formulation of EU policy that puts those interests first and that reflects the expectation of European public opinion increasingly dissatisfied with the status quo. The Arab Peace Initiative, proposed in 2002 but largely ignored since then, could form one pillar of a new EU approach.

I am not personally convince that anything can be done through peaceful means, but the letter does capture the European left view of the situation very well.

I am not personally convince that anything can be done through peaceful means,

InfraBlue wrote:

Israel shouldn't be secured. Israel should be dismantled, it's leadership prosecuted for the oppression of the Palestinian peoples, and

Sorry Adolf. Not going to happen.

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Israel shouldn't be secured. Israel should be dismantled, it's leadership prosecuted for the oppression of the Palestinian peoples, and replaced by a truly democratic, egalitarian and pluralistic state that serves the interests of all of the peoples of Palestine.

The endeavor to preserve Israel as a "Jewish state" is informed by ethnocentric nationalist ideologies that originated in Europe during the 19th century. It's most grotesque manifestation was the Nazi nationalism of Germany during the mid twentieth century. Israel's supporters cling to these ethnocentric nationalist notions as they hold out for Israel's ethnic purity and their rejection of the Palestinian's Right of Return.

This is the big attraction for Nazi/anti-Jewish sentiment whose proponents say they only support Palestine, they dont really hate Jews .

Demolish Israel . Laughable for its sheer stupidity but it makes them feel powerful and vindictive which goes some way to alleviating the hate that festers in them .

After WW2 and before "Nazi, Jewish-Hating, pro-Palestinian Skin Heads" like you became fashionable, Israel was attacked time and time again . Where were you then ?