Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@Walter Hinteler,

No, he is right . Stockholm syndrome does exist and it is goofy to call the deaths of 2,000 people 'genocide' . It really points at your character to use those people to justify terror attacks simply because they are Palestinian Terrorists .

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@Builder,

What a lot of anti-American bullshit . Let me guess...the USA is responsible for a UN mandate to go into Korea and is guilty of the Chinese attacking them thus causing Chinese deaths . Perhaps the USA is responsible for those massacred by the North Koreans and North Vietnamese, the Taliban, the communist crushing of Eastern European democratic rebellions, ISIL, hell the list is boringly long .

You have the cheek to mention proxy wars ? Never heard of the Soviet Union in your neck of the woods, huh ? China in Korea or China in North Vietnam ? No ?

You can afford a plane ticket I take it ? Go to those countries and criticise them . North Korea, the Taliban, great democracies all and we should pray daily for their continued success against the American imperialist running dogs . Oh, wait, they will kill you for your religion wont they ? Better change that then . Unless of course you are not religious in which case they will kill you . Your women had better have a man with them or they will get killed for seducing men when they go shopping, EVEN if they are wearing a black tent .

The United States is responsible... Rolling Eyes

what a clown . Dont you feel you are powerful and doing something worthwhile whilst betraying the people who saved your miserable existence ? Its easy to criticise those who protect you, but just step around them and take the role on yourself and see how long you last .

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@izzythepush,

Your demonstration of bigotry (this week's word is bigotry) whilst screaming bigot is hilarious .

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once there's a united Ireland the Irish will redouble their campaign against Britain.

Do you have any idea of the requirements for an analogy ?

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once Sinn Fein joined the power sharing executive terrorist offences nosedived, and those still engaged in terrorism were marginalised

Do you misunderstand everything ? It was once the IRA refuted terrorism that this could happen but it is common for you to twist things around . It makes sense though that you support all kinds of terrorists, be they Islamist or Catholic .

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There's no reason whatsoever to think anything different will happen once Palestine gets its own state, free from daily persecution and humiliation. Once an oppressed people experience peace and prosperity they want to keep hold of it. While they're being oppressed they develop a siege mentality because they've got nothing to lose

Oh, you mean like the Taliban in Afghanistan ? There they were, surrounded by the Twin Towers when Osama says..."Boys ! Its blocking my sunlight ! Kill yourselves !"

ISIL are beheading westerners because they already had a state, all they had to do was non-terror activity and they could have formed their caliphate but no, they were surrounded by dangerous women not wearing burqas, just like the Taliban were surrounded by dangerous kite flying and soccer playing .

You see, in your mind, there are no bad Muslims...Palestine would be the ONLY Muslim state to not have fundamental Islamic Terrorists because they are such lovely people, far better than you or I and poles showing their very high level of support for terror shouldnt cause concern because that support would simply disappear !

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@carloslebaron,

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With today's technology and smart phones giving you facts from every side of an aspect, new generations of the Jewish population are finding out that their "holocaust" (gas chambers, burning people alive, and similar) wasn't true.

Yes, and the moon is coming to save us . Every side of an aspect ? Do they give you the side that says they existed ?

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@Ionus,

What are you talking about?

Quote me, if you choose, but that rambling rant addresses nothing in this thread.

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@InfraBlue,

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And so Zionism and the state of Israel are based on religious mythology.

Beats the hell out of states that were formed on the basis of the pointy end of a gun .

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@Walter Hinteler,

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I could have called this sociopathic personality as having a personality disorder etc but I preferred a colloquialism.

I grasp your meaning, Walter. Your words were also carefully placed towards a peculiarly mean-spirited individual, who obviously has a real problem with reality. I will agree the poster in question appear to manifest some form of personality disorder. In one breath, he delights in spouting hatred and torture for those with a different opinion regarding the schizophrenic Knox, and then turns around, junks the victim, and the mother of the murdered girl! Next, he has the fu*king audacity to claim he's the "good guy!" Anyone can see this nutcase belong in a straightjacket.

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@Builder,

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If you want to get pedantic about the history of these people, we'll settle for apartheid, shall we?

I''ll see your stupidity and raise you Nazism . Arabs supported Nazism so you see the connection ?

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Jews and Palestinians are not from any particular race

Wrong. Jews have interbred with Europeans and have mixed genealogy, though both Arabs and Europeans are Aryan .

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@InfraBlue,

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Superlatives aside, so they have support in Palestine, so what?

I dont know how to point out the obvious when someone says 'Oh, yeah...so what ?'

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their slaughter of Palestinians

So you think they line them up in a pen and then send them up a chute to the slaughter floor...no, thats the Jews you are thinking of .

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@Builder,

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What are you talking about?

There are other forums for the unknowing, but just in case it is due to a brain tumuor, I will explain...I am sickened and saddened by people who blame the USA for all the ills of the world . Who do you want to lead the world ? Nazi Germany ? Stalinist Russia ? Maoist China ? Imperialist Japan ? North Korea ? ISIS ? Didnt you read your reference ? It blamed the USA for every defense of freedom as though it chose to take lives . If you enjoy freedom, then you are a hypocrite .

I take it you are a Muslim ?

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@Ionus,

Ionus wrote:

No, he is right . Stockholm syndrome does exist and it is goofy to call the deaths of 2,000 people 'genocide' . It really points at your character to use those people to justify terror attacks simply because they are Palestinian Terrorists .

I have never and will never justify terrorist attacks. I don't use genocide in an inflationary way.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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I have never and will never justify terrorist attacks.

I accept you at your word.

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I don't use genocide in an inflationary way.

?? How do you rationally explain to the peoples who have suffered Genocide that you think a very minor percentage of deaths in a population that is thriving constitutes 'genocide'?

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@Ionus,

Ionus wrote:

How do you rationally explain to the peoples who have suffered Genocide that you think a very minor percentage of deaths in a population that is thriving constitutes 'genocide'?

Usually, I don't explain Genocide to others. If I do so, I follow the definition as written in the Genocide Convention (in articles II and III of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide).

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@Ionus,

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There are other forums for the unknowing, but just in case it is due to a brain tumuor, I will explain...

Opening a post with a blatant ad hominen? You're off to a great start. No, really....

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I am sickened and saddened by people who blame the USA for all the ills of the world .

Then you're seriously lacking an education regarding the current world situation, and how we arrived at this point. Vlad might have some info for your perusal.

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Who do you want to lead the world ? Nazi Germany ? Stalinist Russia ? Maoist China ? Imperialist Japan ? North Korea ? ISIS ?

None of these regimes exist today. North Korea isn't even on the map, as a threat, and the history of ISIS as a mercenary force funded by the Sauds and the US is there for all to see. This article isn't the only one on the topic.

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Didnt you read your reference ?

What reference are you referring to?

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It blamed the USA for every defense of freedom as though it chose to take lives .

You'd need to extrapolate on that claim. ..."defense of freedom....to take lives..." ??

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If you enjoy freedom, then you are a hypocrite .

Again, you'd need to explain this sentence in the context of this debate.

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I take it you are a Muslim ?

Methodist. Is that important to you? Or to this debate?

We're discussing the Zionist takeover of another nation, which has been established already by other debaters here.

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@korkamann,

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I will agree the poster in question appear to manifest some form of personality disorder.

You clowns shouldn't take it out on me just because you get frustrated with reality.

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In one breath, he delights in spouting hatred and torture for those with a different opinion regarding the schizophrenic Knox,

There is no end to your slander of innocent people, is there?

Every time a Palestinian gets killed, my first thought is of course that it is yet another fake.

But those few times when it is clear that some Palestinian kid really did get killed, then I remember what monsters the people who support the Palestinians are. With supporters as monstrous as you are, dead Palestinian children can only be a good thing.

Here's hoping more of the little buggers get killed, and soon.

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and then turns around, junks the victim,

You are the only person here who is slandering innocent victims. You are living proof that Palestinians are evil and deserve to be killed.

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and the mother of the murdered girl!

That scumbag deserves condemnation. She tried to use the death of her daughter as an opportunity to steal someone else's money, and deliberately got two innocent people sent to prison for four years.

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Next, he has the fu*king audacity to claim he's the "good guy!"

I am one of the good guys. And I'm certainly not ashamed of that fact.

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Anyone can see this nutcase belong in a straightjacket.

Says the clown who can't point to a single fact that I am wrong about.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

I don't use genocide in an inflationary way.

Maybe not, but you sure rushed to defend other people who were abusing the term genocide in the worst possible way, when I called them a bunch of goofy self-hating Jews.

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@oralloy,

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.....but you sure rushed to defend other people who were abusing the term genocide in the worst possible way....

Actually, whether it's a nation, or an entire continent of people, the term is still pertinent. Nationicide is not a word.

Today's conditions in the Gaza strip have been repeatedly referred to by any number of true journalist/correspondents as the largest open-air prison complex on the planet.

Just one of many articles on that topic.

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@oralloy,

I don't know that any of the concentration camp survivors called the attacks by the Israeli government a "Genocide". Nor do I know of any other Jewish organisation doing so.
But even if they do/did, I can't get why this should make them "self-hating".

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@Walter Hinteler,

Here's a snippet from the original article.

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40 survivors of the Holocaust signed the letter and 287 descendants of victims also added their names.

“I resent anybody who will use those events as an excuse to exterminate Palestinians,” said Bell, who said she survived concentration camps by “pure luck.”

The letter printed in the New York Times has garnered international media attention from the likes of the BBC and Ha’aretz. “As Jewish survivors and descendants of survivors and victims of the Nazi genocide we unequivocally condemn the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza and the ongoing occupation and colonization of historic Palestine,” the letter says. “We call for an immediate end to the siege against and blockade of Gaza. We call for the full economic, cultural and academic boycott of Israel. ‘Never again’ must mean NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYONE!”

- See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/holocaust-survivors-palestinians#sthash.ruUIVpcg.dpuf

And the terms "exterminate" and "massacre" aren't used lightly.

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And as an aside, the term "genocide" is freely used in describing the Nazi's attack on Jewish people in general.

Count how many nations these Jewish people were living in, before being transported to concentration camps.

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