Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@Quehoniaomath,

Quehoniaomath wrote:

Sure. Just stating that you do doesn't mean a thing and it s very funny to see that you don't even get that!
You are really a very funny girl.

Why don't you go play with Blatham? His pretend intelligence would be right up your ally.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Quehoniaomath wrote:
You realy have no clue and this is of course not a valid argument of yours.

I know more about this lone subject than you know about everything in the universe.

That bar isn't set very high... My dog knows more about nuclear weapons than the sum total of Qehog's 'knowledge'.

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@oralloy,

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Why don't you go play with Blatham? His pretend intelligence would be right up your ally.

Is that all you can do?

Figures!

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@oralloy,

Yes, they both know now.
I've messaged both of them and they've responded.

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@oralloy,

The US voted in favour of Res 181 and has spent a lot of time & money trying to evade their part of the responsisbilty for the tragic outcome, after the division of the former mandate of Palestine took effect.

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@Olivier5,

Quahog has knowledge? If anything, it's negative Knowledge - the very first and last in human mind.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Quahog has knowledge? If anything, it's negative Knowledge - the very first and last in human mind.

Why an Ad Hominem. again? Something I said and you have troubles with?

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Israel’s activities in the occupied territories resulted in the deaths of 2,314 Palestinians and 17,125 injuries last year, compared with 39 deaths and 3,964 injuries in 2013, according to the annual report by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). Source

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@Walter Hinteler,

Some 90% of those deaths were faked by the Palestinians, and the UN is a nest of anti-Semitic vipers. Unless this report is formatted to serve double duty as toilet paper, what a tragic waste of good trees.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Jews have a weakness in math when it involves the Palestinians they have killed and maimed in Israel.

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7 in 10 Palestinian killed in the Gaza in 2014

What galls me most is that Israel is called a 'democracy.' I wonder what they mean by "occupied territories?"

Do we have 'occupied territories' in any other democracy?

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Israel’s activities in the occupied territories resulted in the deaths of 2,314 Palestinians and 17,125 injuries last year, compared with 39 deaths and 3,964 injuries in 2013, according to the annual report by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). Source

How many deaths have occurred in Ukraine or Chechnya or Georgia as a result of Russian actions? Similar issues of local threats from alleged discordant neighbors were the issues in these areas as well. Western European Powers don't appear to be equally incensed about that.

I agree that Israel is guilty of excesses against the Palestinians, some done in situations in which there was much less risk to themselves than exists today. However, I believe that public indignation over that is becoming a good deal higher when Israel is the offending party than most other offenders (and in todays world many grotesque offenses abound). Why is that ??? I believe this is a question that Europeans in particular should address to themselves.

As the creators of the legacy of misery that exists in the post colonial Mideast, the British and French should be particularly silent on the present suituation.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

I agree that Israel is guilty of excesses against the Palestinians, some done in situations in which there was much less risk to themselves than exists today. However,

Israel is not guilty of any such excesses. All they do is defend themselves against a relentless aggressor who refuses to make peace.

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@oralloy,

That's not true. All you have to do is to consider the immediate aftermath of the 1967 war to see what might otherwise have been.

However, all that has been thrashed out ad nauseum in the earlier pages of this thread.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

How many deaths have occurred in Ukraine or Chechnya or Georgia as a result of Russian actions? Similar issues of local threats from alleged discordant neighbors were the issues in these areas as well. Western European Powers don't appear to be equally incensed about that.

I doubt that such will be published be an organisation which is named UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the occupied Palestinian territory. And my post was just referring to a publication from this office.
Perhaps, there really should be similar offices for Ukraine or Chechnya or Georgia - that really would be important "to bring together humanitarian actors to ensure a coherent response to emergencies" in those countries.

Edit: the have a field office in Ukraine: 2015 Ukraine Humanitarian Response Plan (Revised)

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@georgeob1,

What the hell has Ukraine, or Chechnya, or Georgia, got to do with deaths of Pals in Israel except to try to change the subject?

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@cicerone imposter,

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Do we have 'occupied territories' in any other democracy?

The USA, Australia, Canada...any where in the New World where native populations were moved onto 'reserves' rather than breeding and intermingling like Mexico .

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@Ionus,

Believe it or not, we're now in the 21st century. What countries occupies other people's property besides the Jews of Israel?

BTW, I'm talking about so-called 'democracies' recognized by the UN.

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@cicerone imposter,

May be you didnt understand my point . The countries I mentioned all stole land and are living on it . Time has moved on and the world has forgiven or forgotten or both . You are being hypocritical if you live in one of those countries and criticise Israel for being formed in the wrong century . 200 yrs down the track, and maybe the Palestinians will have gone the way of Indians and Aboriginees .

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Believe it or not, we're now in the 21st century.

I dont take any great joy in the advancement of the clock or see how things MUST be better .

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@Ionus,

This report, which I quoted, isn't really about Israel. It is about that region which is covered by The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights in the occupied Palestinian territory (OHCHR oPt).

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@Walter Hinteler,

Yes, I understand that but I was responding to different points raised after that .

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