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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 01:34 pm
@izzythepush,
Walter's English is down right better than my Japanese. Laughing Laughing Shocked
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worldtraveler24
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 02:20 pm
@izzythepush,
Izzy,
I was not plagiarizing as I stated clearly that they were grammatical rules. Since I have not created the grammatical rules, it would be foolish for me to write them in sequence.

However, I do admit I should have included the web citation as that is the proper way of citing a borrowed work. I am in full agreement with you on this point.

Nonetheless, to conclude this episode, let me remind you that according to: http://www.grammarbook.com/grammar/whoVwhVt.asp, -- which-- can be used to take the place of an organization or group of people. In this case the Zionists fall into this category and thus the word which is grammatically correct. Please see below:

Who, That, Which

More Grammar Rules: Finding Nouns, Verbs, and Subjects Subject-Verb Agreement Clauses and Phrases Pronouns Who vs. Whom Whoever vs. Whomever Who, That, Which Adjectives and Adverbs Prepositions Effective Writing



Rule 1. Who and sometimes that refer to people. That and which refer to groups or things.

Now, I understand that you are a Brit and thus I will not argue with you on your English any more as American English is a bit different than what you all speak and write.

Languages evolve over time and within regions so, I will leave you to your own understanding. No hard feelings as we both could take lessons from each other.
worldtraveler24
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 02:22 pm
@neologist,
Watchtower University
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 02:48 pm
@worldtraveler24,
You don't know what you're talking about. The most influential dictionary by Samuel Johnson was not even the first dictionary. The Oxford English Dictionary work was begun in 1857, and it's still in progress, because English is a living language that continues to evolve, and most English speaking countries continue to contribute to it.

I learned this interesting fact by reading Simon Winchester's "The Meaning of Everything."

There may be some minor differences in the spelling of words and meaning between the British and English languages, but the meaning remains the same.
Grammar rules are the same depending on how its used.

Try 'boot.' No American is going to mistake a 'boot' for a car part, and no Brit is going to confuse the boot of a car with someone's footwear.
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neologist
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 03:30 pm
@worldtraveler24,
Clever. But no such place.
A telling error, BTW.
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oralloy
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 05:18 pm
@McTag,
McTag wrote:
Truth, always the first casualty.

I never have any trouble finding the truth.


McTag wrote:
But it's obviously a bit embarrassing.

Not for me. I've never been embarrassed by the truth.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 05:25 pm
JW's attending university to get smart? Perish the thought..Wink

"Jehovah’s Witnesses are advised against pursuing a higher education..
The outcome of these warnings is that Jehovah’s Witnesses have amongst the lowest average education and income levels of any religion in the United States"
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/higher-education-university.php
neologist
 
  1  
Thu 31 Jul, 2014 05:53 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
JW's attending university to get smart? Perish the thought..Wink

"Jehovah’s Witnesses are advised against pursuing a higher education..
The outcome of these warnings is that Jehovah’s Witnesses have amongst the lowest average education and income levels of any religion in the United States"
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/higher-education-university.php
I believe Jesus' apostles were among the same sort. Yet, somehow we managed to make our website available in over 300 languages.

Probably just a matter of focus.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:49 pm
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:51 pm
This is not a "war", it is a pogrom in a ghetto, the Gaza ghetto is like the Warsaw ghetto.


We are not alone:


"A Pew Research Center poll released Monday showed that a plurality of Democrats across the country, 35 percent, and liberals, 44 percent, said that Israel had “gone too far” in its response to its conflict with Hamas. Meanwhile 47 percent of Democrats told Gallup that Israel’s actions during the current conflict were “unjustified,” compared to just 31 percent who thought the opposite."

To be ignored and sent to jury.......ignored in the media, ignored by our own progressive heroes.....

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Israelis want a "final solution", having apparently forgotten their own history.

War is between relatively equal sides, no war ends up with 1300 civilians killed on one side and 2 on the other, anyone care to weigh in on the math?

Meanwhile cowardly American politicians hide behind chest beating symbolic votes and ship more ammo to Israel as a gift, hoping to keep their fundraising intact and not be attacked by the compliant media...as hundreds of children are torn part limb by limb in their sleep as they
lay in "protected" UN shelters.

As evil as the slaughter is the evil of the American media advancing evil lies and war crimes by the dozens. The human shield argument is so lame as to be a war crime itself, but criminals always have their own sick mind justifications, do they not?

Did you get the part where Israel gets to or has to, I have not figured that out yet, to buy more ammo and weapons.....directly from the American manufacturers? Because the hereto before secret stash of a billion dollars already in Israel, provided by you as a taxpayer, is not enough. Not enough to continue the killing at the pace Bibi wants. How sick is that!

America and Israel belong on the same psych ward, and in the same courtroom.

And yes, I am directly attacking Israel. Israel is wrong and the dead children are dead right, so take me to the jury for my whipping, I am man enough to defend myself and the dead at the same time.
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buttflake
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 08:55 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
the Gaza ghetto is like the Warsaw ghetto.

No one is being forced to live there.

Quote:
The Warsaw Ghetto was established by the German Governor-General Hans Frank on October 16, 1940 in an area of Warsaw primarily occupied by Polish Jews. Frank ordered all Jews in Warsaw and its suburbs rounded up and herded into the Ghetto.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto

Palestinians can live in any part of Israel if they wish.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 09:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Unfortunately, the Warsaw ghetto was located in one location in Poland. Since 1947, the Zionists have created all of those Palestinian ghettos to work on their 'final solution.'

This article is from 2006, but it shows the goal of the Zionists since the beginning of the Haganah's goal "to perpetuate a terror campaign of systematic ethnic cleansing and murdering of the native Palestinian population."

If history is proof, than all can see the evidence since 1947 of the ethnic cleansing of Israel.

http://www.countercurrents.org/pa-hassan100706.htm
bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 09:10 pm
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buttflake
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2014 09:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,


You must be a serious hater. And an extremely gullible one too.
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izzythepush
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 01:56 am
@worldtraveler24,
You cut and pasted someone else's work without attributing it. That's what you did.

Now your stance on Israel is quite confused, please can you clarify what you think the West's approach should be towards Israel.
worldtraveler24
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 08:05 am
@izzythepush,
Calm down there mate! We can still convey our thoughts even though there was the Boston Tea Party some years ago! I have heard that the Bostonians still love Earl Grey tea and love the Callard and Bowser candies with a crumpet or two.


Now concerning the lack of citation, I do wear my shame on my shoulders. I should have attributed the work to the proper author, although it was certainly not done with intent, it was done indeed incorrectly. Again, my remorse has superseded my former zeal to show you up for your trivial mistake. I am indeed humiliated!

Concerning the subject, you have stated that my stance on Israel is quite confused but indeed it is not. It is not doubt in need of clarification but not confused. I will try to clarify it for you once in for all.

I reject all of the Zionists desires and call them nothing but elitists that want nothing more than to rule the peasants of the world. Keep in mind that there are more 'Zionists" in the U.S. than there are in Israel. So, perhaps we agree on the Zionist's per se.

The point on which I disagree with you is that to state that all Jews, whether policy makers within the Israeli cabinet or not, are of the same origin and that they are Zionists is an error. Although the majority of the Jews in Israel come from an exodus of European decent, this alone does not determine whether one is a "true Jew" or not. A "True Jew" is one who follows the covenant of their father Abraham, which could include any distinct blood line or geographical origin. This was a blood covenant that Abraham had with GOD. Thus, the "true Jews" are the ones who practice Judaism in the archaic manner of their ancient fathers. I speak more of the religious Jews than the loose generic term Jew. Incorrectly stated is that all Jews are Zionists or that they agree with the Zionist's agenda. This is not correct!

The West should support Israel as we always have done; if for no other reason than to support democracy in the midst of a sea of Islamic monarchies and a mix and match of other governments.

You say that this war is nothing more than the Zionists attempt to move their agenda forward. I disagree with you on this. Perhaps there are those involved that are Zionists and are pushing forward for their own ideals; however, there are true Jews in the mix that simply want to protect themselves from the missile attacks. The missiles that originally started a few weeks back have been unprovoked. Sure--maybe Israeli policies and a blocked border have cause anger in the minds and hearts of the terrorist group Hamas, but that is no reason for them to start lobbing missiles at innocent people.

Hamas is a know terrorist organization and they have stated several times that they want to wipe Israel off the map.

Any sovereign country should have the right to defend itself regardless of any particular agenda that may be masked within such.

I do hope that this has clarified my "quite confused stance on Israel".

I would ask of you the same...what is your stance on Israel?

Israel as a nation has every right to defend itself and should take whatever measures necessary to do so.

No one with a rational mind wants anyone dismembered or killed; however, war always leads to collateral damage.

cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 09:06 am
@worldtraveler24,
wt wrote,
Quote:
Calm down there mate! We can still convey our thoughts even though there was the Boston Tea Party some years ago! I have heard that the Bostonians still love Earl Grey tea and love the Callard and Bowser candies with a crumpet or two.


Your fractional knowledge about history only proves your ignorance.
1. We are calm! It's based on how the Zionists are treating other humans like they were treated during WWII. It's an outrage, and people like you don't understand why.
2. The UK and the US have been allies for over 100 years. That we buy UK products and the UK buys US products is nothing out of the ordinary. Our countries also trade with most of the world. Your myopia is amazing to say the least!

You need to learn some perspective of world events.
worldtraveler24
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 10:24 am
@cicerone imposter,
CI,

Why are you so belligerent? Who put you in charge around here?

You have no idea the level of my ignorance nor my educational level.

If ignorance means to ignore you then yes, you are correct! I have a lot of it!

Go fetch an equal!
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 10:27 am
@worldtraveler24,
Nobody put me in charge of anything. My belligerence is based on how some humans treat other humans - without any regard to their lives.

If you're bothered by my belligerence, you should be more concerned about humanity; the ability of peoples to live in freedom, equal rights, and to seek happiness.

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izzythepush
 
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Fri 1 Aug, 2014 10:56 am
@worldtraveler24,
worldtraveler24 wrote:

Calm down there mate! We can still convey our thoughts even though there was the Boston Tea Party some years ago! I have heard that the Bostonians still love Earl Grey tea and love the Callard and Bowser candies with a crumpet or two.


Resorting to cheap stereotyping is not part of an informed debate.
 

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