Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@oralloy,

oralloy says:

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MontereyJack wrote:
DNA also says that Palestinians are indigenous to the West Bank,
Wrong. DNA shows that the Palestinians come from somewhere other than the West Bank area.

MontereyJack wrote:
Sorry, oralloy, the science doesn't support you.

Oralloy:Yes it does

Wrong, oralloy. What the DNA shows is that Palestinian DNA fits smack in the middle of the range of variation in Jewish DNA. They had common ancestry and BOTH were there. I've never seen a cite from you that says anything different. In fact, the one cite on the subject from way far back on this thread, shortly before you propounded this absurd theory, which was I think this:
http://epiphenom.fieldofscience.com/2009/01/shared-genetic-heritage-of-jews-and.html
flatly did not support you. Since it's highly unlikely that you yourself are a genetic researcher, you are invited to provide some reliable research evidence, which you have NOT done, to support your position. Otherwise, FAIL

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@MontereyJack,

He's already flunked genetics.

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The true Gaza back-story that the Israelis aren’t telling this week

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The Israelis of Sederot are coming under rocket fire from the Palestinians of Gaza and now the Palestinians are getting their comeuppance. Sure. But wait, how come all those Palestinians – all 1.5 million – are crammed into Gaza in the first place? Well, their families once lived, didn’t they, in what is now called Israel? And got chucked out – or fled for their lives – when the Israeli state was created.

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@cicerone imposter,

Genetics?! He's not outta junior high school yet.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Everybody needs to also see the other Palestinian communities in Israel; they're more like prisons than democratic communities. They're surrounded by barbed wires and high walls; the only 'democratic' country where the people of a country are treated like criminals with no freedom of movement. It's worse than apartheid; they can also lose their property and homes without any legal recourse.

Then they wonder why Hamas has the gall to send missiles to the places where Jews live.

They want law-abiding citizens against the people they have taken away all equal rights.

Then, the president's henchmen has the gall to tell me they can't lift the embargo against Cuba, because the people of that country has no freedoms.

Bethlehem prison.

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The Pal decision to go after Israel's major cities may be a major mistake. That puts the conflict in an entirely different context. Israel will now strike Gaza and Hamas especially hard, as it should. In the end, that will be the most humane approach to the Pals.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Then, the president's henchmen has the gall to tell me they can't lift the embargo against Cuba, because the people of that country has no freedoms.

They have reduced freedoms because the people of Cuba have to guard against the USA taking over again and turning them into peons and prostitutes serving American gangsters.

If the USA had been under a state of seige for over 60 years, like Cuba has been, you'd be crying little sheeple. Hell you can be frightened into fearing the afghan navy at the drop of a hat.

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Clear, unequivocal proof means nothing to one as delusional as you, Advocate.

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@cicerone imposter,

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y375/imposter222/P1010055_zps440d9a61.jpg

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@cicerone imposter,

This one is near Jerusalem.

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y375/imposter222/20131JANCubaA2012-10-26008_zps416f9d07.jpg

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@cicerone imposter,

Were you able to enter these areas, CI, were you able to talk to the people who lived there?

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@JTT,

We're able to enter Bethlehem, because that's where they have the 'spot' where Jesus was supposedly born, and many people of religion go there to touch and kiss the spot. I'm not sure about the other barricated areas, but it's my understanding that people can visit those areas if they wish. Interestingly enough, Jews are not allowed in those restricted areas. Anthony Bourdain was recently in Gaza to film a segment of his show, and the people of that area welcomed him as a guest as well as feeding him. That's the Palestinian culture; to make people feel at home.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

About 1840, more Palestinians (15,000) lived in the town of Acre than Jews in all Palestine (between 10,000 and 15,000 depending on whom you believe).

Have you read the Gotz Aly book, Why Germany, Why the Jews? The belief that Jews were too successful for their small numbers drove much of the self-righteous anti-Semitism of early 20th century German anti-Semitism. The whole Arab/Israeli antagonism, in my opinion, is generated by similar feelings to what many Germans felt in the early 20th century - the collective German race should not be shown up by these Jews.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

Foofie wrote:
Who would have thought that Jews would return after two-thousand years.

The Zionist Jews didn't return to Palestine, having originated in Europe. They got silly mythological nationalist notions in their heads and went about usurping Palestine.

You left out the fact that those who had to fight a war in 1948 were the survivors of the Final Solution. And, they had nowhere else to go actually. But, don't let that change your mind.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Most accurate description of all!
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silly mythological nationalist notions in their heads

So, I guess Jesus never existed?

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Ancient homeland has no meaning. Most people in this world are immigrants to other lands - where they own homes - legally, and can't get kicked out like the Palestinians who have no legal rights. ISRAEL IS NOT A DEMOCRACY; it's a religious based country that believes in myths to grab ownership of other people's property.

In my opinion, you really didn't learn anything from the Japanese-American internments. That being that hate towards a group needs no logic. So, rather than assimilate like you did, they chose to be in a country that they can wrap some rationale around. No different than the good pilgrims living in log cabins (they were mud huts - the Norwegians made log cabins).

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Hey, JTT, get off your ****'n high horse and drop dead. You asshole! You never contribute anything of significance or worth.

You are not doing the algebra. JTT is just saying Israel is no better than the U.S.A. So, if one can accept the U.S.A's role on the world stage, as I do, then one should be able to see Israel's role in the middle east. It's just algebra that he is giving you in verbal form.

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@InfraBlue,

InfraBlue wrote:

oralloy wrote:

InfraBlue wrote:
The Zionist Jews didn't return to Palestine, having originated in Europe. They got silly mythological nationalist notions in their heads and went about usurping Palestine.

Nope. The Zionist Jews are the indigenous population of the West Bank area. It's their ancient homeland.

Nuh-uh. The Jews that came up with the silly ideology of Zionism--Ashkenazi Jews-- were indigenous to Europe.

Ashkenazi Jews are just the Jews that migrated north after the expulsion from a burning Jerusalem, thanks to the Romans. Due to rapes, and possibly some mixing with Gentiles (the Khazars?) they might not look like pure Semites. However, many Native Americans, due to mixing, also do not look like pure Native Americans; however, no one is going to tell them they are not Native Americans.

By the way, if you are now in SC, you might find that anti-Israel denouncements are not necessarily appreciated by all. Possibly, a few Jewish doctors and dentists, and other professionals there on the east coast? Many Gentiles might like the availability of professionals, regardless of religion. P.S. The definition of anti-Semitism, where Jews are functioning as a community resource, is something like anything that makes Jews uncomfortable is anti-Semitic. Read: Let's not get them to leave.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

DNA also says that Palestinians are indigenous to the West Bank, and tends to reinforce the historical record that the pre-2oth century poulation of what is now Israel was largely from Christian and Jewish populations who converted to Islam in the centuries following the conquest (and the Christian population would have included many Jewish converts too). Sorry, oralloy, the science doesn't support you.

You're saying Palestineans are apostate Jews?

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

To be called a "slimeball" by an idiot is about as effective as your position on all of us anti-Semites and Jew-haters.

You're also a racial bigot. You must be a 'proud' Jew most Jews distance themselves from.

"Us"?

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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

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