Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@Advocate,

If you would look, why this resolution was made, it shouldn't be even a tiny bit strange.

@Advocate,

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It seems a bit strange that the church has never even proposed an economic boycott on the Palestinians because of their continuous terroristic attacks on Israelis (e. g., firing about 10,000 rockets and missiles into Israeli civilian areas).

"Strange"? Ah, there you go again, feigning oblivion regarding the root cause of Palestinian's attack against the Zionist nation. There simply is no reason for such insensibleness to the core reason of the Israeli/Palestinian ongoing battle for land. You know as well as anyone that Palestinians are the victims here, as it is their land which is systematically being taken over by the implacable Israeli government. The "Church" is seeking justice for a Palestinian people against the deceptively double standard of the US government who tell the Israelis they can continue building settlements in the WB until these border issues are settled ..... that is when the goal of a Palestinian state has been reached.

PS As an aside, the Israelis see in Hillary Clinton a champion of their cause....she is a hawk (a sharp edged politician) when it come to Israel and is heavily influenced by them . During her campaign against Obama she said if any country attacked Israel she "would annihilate them!" Granted there was a little political hyperbole here, but there is the very strong possibility that under the Israeli influence she would have us back into a war in the middle east, most likely to attack Iran which is high priority on the Israeli list.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

If you would look, why this resolution was made, it shouldn't be even a tiny bit strange.

Presbytarian Church (USA) Palestine-Israel mission wrote:

Palestinian Christians are under attack in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories.
Israeli settlers have been vandalizing Palestinian churches, monasteries, cemeteries, and other Christian institutions and property in alarming numbers over the past three years.

Presbytarian Church (USA) Palestine-Israel mission wrote:

ACSWP calls for the “establishment and protection of equal human rights for all inhabitants” of Israel and Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza as well as “free and fair elections” within the Palestinian territories.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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.....Israeli settlers have been vandalizing Palestinian churches, monasteries, cemeteries, and other Christian institutions and property in alarming numbers over the past three years.

These wild-eyed fanatical Israeli settlers are no respecter of other peoples' religion and or property. They believe "God gave them all of Palestinian land" and no one else has a right to be there; they will not only destroy Palestinian "Christian institutions," "monasteries, cemeteries" etc, but destroy Palestinians' citrus trees and wild stock. The setters are terrorists number One! They, who receive an annual stipend from the US taxpayer, were the ones who were the most boisterous, delirious with joy at the 9/11 tragedy on America's Twin Towers, our pentagon, and the other passenger planes that went down.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

If you would look, why this resolution was made, it shouldn't be even a tiny bit strange.

The resolution was made because Presbyterians are anti-Semites.

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

It seems a bit strange that the church has never even proposed an economic boycott on the Palestinians because of their continuous terroristic attacks on Israelis (e. g., firing about 10,000 rockets and missiles into Israeli civilian areas).

If anti-Semites are allowed to impose hardships on Israel for the fact that Palestinians refuse to make peace, Israel gains the right to impose hardships on the Palestinians in order to encourage them to make peace.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

If anti-Semites are allowed to impose hardships on Israel for the fact that Palestinians refuse to make peace, Israel gains the right to impose hardships on the Palestinians in order to encourage them to make peace.

This was neither about anti-Semites nor about hardship on Israel.

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@Moment-in-Time,

Wow! What a big liar you are!

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@Moment-in-Time,

Moment-in-Time wrote:

"Strange"? Ah, there you go again, feigning oblivion regarding the root cause of Palestinian's attack against the Zionist nation.

The root cause is the fact that Palestinian vermin refuse to make peace.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

There simply is no reason for such insensibleness to the core reason of the Israeli/Palestinian ongoing battle for land.

The core reason is the fact that Palestinian vermin refuse to make peace.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

You know as well as anyone that Palestinians are the victims here,

Nope. When Palestinian vermin run around murdering people, that makes them the perpetrators.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

as it is their land which is systematically being taken over by the implacable Israeli government.

That is Israeli land. The Palestinians are illegal invaders.

Further, Israel has repeatedly offered to let the Palestinians have that Israeli land in exchange for peace. And every single time, the Palestinians chose to just keep massacring innocent Israelis.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

The "Church" is seeking justice for a Palestinian people

There is nothing "just" about a pack of anti-Semites aiding the cause of people devoted to massacring innocent Israelis.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

against the deceptively double standard of the US government who tell the Israelis they can continue building settlements in the WB until these border issues are settled ..... that is when the goal of a Palestinian state has been reached.

No double standard there. The Palestinians don't get their state unless they agree to make peace.

Now that you anti-Semites have made peace impossible, Israel is free to do with the land as they please.

Moment-in-Time wrote:

PS As an aside, the Israelis see in Hillary Clinton a champion of their cause....she is a hawk (a sharp edged politician) when it come to Israel and is heavily influenced by them . During her campaign against Obama she said if any country attacked Israel she "would annihilate them!" Granted there was a little political hyperbole here, but there is the very strong possibility that under the Israeli influence she would have us back into a war in the middle east, most likely to attack Iran which is high priority on the Israeli list.

Says the person who once advocated that the bombardment of Iran be done in a manner that would cause catastrophic nuclear meltdowns throughout their country.

BTW, IF Iran does not dismantle their illegal nuclear weapons program, Mr. Obama is going to be the one to bomb them.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Presbytarian Church (USA) Palestine-Israel mission wrote:

ACSWP calls for the “establishment and protection of equal human rights for all inhabitants” of Israel and Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza as well as “free and fair elections” within the Palestinian territories.

Are the Presbyterian anti-Semites also going to call on Germany to allow the American populace to vote in German elections?

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

This was neither about anti-Semites nor about hardship on Israel.

I disagree. When a pack of anti-Semites tries to impose hardships on Israel, I find that it is both about anti-Semites and about hardships imposed on Israel.

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@oralloy,

That might be so.
But this was neither about anti-Semites nor about hardship on Israel.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

this was neither about anti-Semites nor about hardship on Israel.

That is incorrect. This is about a pack of anti-Semites trying to impose hardship on Israel. Therefore it is both about anti-Semites and about hardship imposed on Israel.

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@oralloy,

You're well educated about the Presbyterian Church (USA), I suppose, and attended the 42nd General Assembly to get this well founded judgment.

I've honestly thought, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A) is pulling millions of dollars in investments out of three U.S. companies tied to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories.
And this has been discussed during the last ten years ....

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@Walter Hinteler,

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I've honestly thought, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A) is pulling millions of dollars in investments out of three U.S. companies tied to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories.
And this has been discussed during the last ten years ....

This divestiture by the Presbyterian Church in the USA, cannot be halted by the US government like they've prevented the BDS movement on US college campuses; The Presbyterian Church is not apart of the broader European community Boycott, either....it's independent. For moral reasons they have chosen to divest from companies doing business with Israel.

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@Advocate,

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What a big liar you are!

Being called a liar by the likes of you is considered a compliment. When it comes to the myriad criminal faults of Israel, you appear to have no conscience....no moral integrity and are beginning to remind me much of the mentally upside down, Oralloy.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

Presbytarian Church (USA) Palestine-Israel mission wrote:
ACSWP calls for the “establishment and protection of equal human rights for all inhabitants” of Israel and Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza as well as “free and fair elections” within the Palestinian territories.

Are the Presbyterian anti-Semites also going to call on Germany to allow the American populace to vote in German elections?

I don't understand why you ask this.
a) we have got the Anglican Church here, but not the Presbyterian Church (USA),
b) any US-citizen living here can vote in local elections, those with dual citizenship in all.
c) in 1991 the U.S.A. officially withdraw from governing us.

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@Moment-in-Time,

Moment-in-Time wrote:

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What a big liar you are!

Being called a liar by the likes of you is considered a compliment.

Did you see Pamela Rosa's Holocaust denying thread? Advocate did post on it, but not to post even the mildest of rebukes Pamela's way. He called another poster anti Semitic, (I think it was Setanta, but I might be wrong,) for daring to criticise Israel.

In Advocate's twisted world view, any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic, but Holocaust denial is fine and dandy as long as you're a fellow racist.

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@Moment-in-Time,

Interestingly, as a Christian, you probably would not last a week in the Pal territories.

Tell us again about all the Muslims who lived in the area 2,000 years ago. This typifies your tendency to lie when it is to denigrate Israelis.

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

Interestingly, as a Christian, you probably would not last a week in the Pal territories.

The Palestine Papal Scout Troop will be on guard (It really has been interesting to watch and listen to them during the mass in Palestine at the Pope's visit: they've got a really good pipe and drums corps, and can play church tunes on them.)

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