Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

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Cicerone said: Israel will eventually be standing alone in the midst of enemies

Yes, a string of US administrations have been propping up Israel for donkey's years with cash and weaponry, but Obama recently sent Kerry to do a deal with Iran to let them go on building nuke reactors, much to the shock of Israel and the delight of the muslim world, so perhaps America is beginning to fall away from Israel..

Israel warns John Kerry over Iranian nuclear deal
The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has launched a furious tirade against a possible deal struck between the international community and Iran over its nuclear programme, warning that it was "the deal of the century" for the Islamic republic, and that Israel would not be bound by it.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/08/israel-john-kerry-iranian-nuclear-deal

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@Foofie,

Arabs were the first to produce coffee, and they "invented" math. You should learn a little about Arab history; they have contributed much to this world.

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It is sad that so many American liberals have fallen in love with the Pals. This is despite the Pal propensity to persecute and kill minorities, women, gays, et al. They have no qualms about targeting innocents. The Pals have no loyalty to anyone but themselves. For instance, many Pals lived and worked in Kuwait . When Iraq invaded Kuwait, the Pals instantly gave their support to the invaders, hoping to gain some exalted status once Iraq took complete ownership. After we saved Kuwait, the latter promptly kicked the Pals out of the country.

This reminds me of when the communists were taking control of Russia, and American liberals fell in love with communism, Lenin, Stalin, et al. The liberals even continued to support Stalin during his show trials, which was his method to destroy any vestige of democracy.

Were the liberal Pal supporters on this thread alive in the '30's, they would be great supporters of the Soviets.

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@Advocate,

Advocate, Nobody is "in love with the Pals." Where do you dream up these foolish opinions?

We're only advocating for equal rights for the Pals, and the Jews of Israel stop stealing their lands. Most of us don't even know any Pals. We understand their plight living in a hell called Israel where they don't have equal legal rights, and their lands continue to be stolen.

Most of us would be advocating for the Jews of Israel if the situations were completely reversed. Get your head out of your ar......

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@Foofie,

cicerone imposter wrote:

The bravado of the Jews in Israel are making more people in the world question their rights to steal lands from other people.

Ease up on the blood libel there, Adolf.

Israel is not stealing anything. And the only people who question these non-existent crimes are anti-Semitic scum like you.

cicerone imposter wrote:

This is not an endless crime;

There is no crime. Your anti-Semitic lies, are anti-Semitic lies.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Israel will eventually be standing alone in the midst of enemies.

That's an anti-Semitic fantasy. No they won't.

But if that did come to pass, it would be their enemies who suffered.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Their ownership of nukes will only isolate them more from the civilized world.

No it won't.

cicerone imposter wrote:

Who will they attack?

The atomic artillery shells are for bombarding any invading army that Israel cannot fend off conventionally.

The strategic missiles are for retaliation against any nuclear attack against Israel.

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

It is sad that so many American liberals have fallen in love with the Pals.

I doubt very many truly have. Only the sort of anti-Semitic scum who also support sending innocent people to prison have any sort of regard for Palestinian vermin.

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@oralloy,

From ALRAY.

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Israel Continues to Plunder lands , 23 Settlements in Salfit
Occupied West Bank0 comments11:42 - 6 November 2013

West Bank, ALRAY - Israel continues to steal the most fertile lands in the villages and towns of Salfit governorate ,adding them to 23 settlements which located on the lands of Salfit.
The researcher Khaled Ma'ali documented that Israel built more apartments and new settlement units on Salfit's agricultural lands, turning it to a large settlement block.
He also explained that Salfit records the second place of settlements numbers after Jerusalem. Salfit is an important city as it locates in the center of West bank and over a groundwater lake ,and has many resources.

You guys are too stupid to know when Jews are stealing lands from the Palestinians.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Last week the largest Danish bank divested from Israel’s HaPoalim Bank because the latter funds squatter firms on Palestinian territory, in contravention of international law. This step is the latest in a rash of European moves to divest from Israeli economic enterprises located on Palestinian land in the West Bank and illegally exploiting Palestinian resources. (The 1949 Geneva Convention forbids an Occupying power from flooding its citizens into militarily occupied territory or from altering the lifeways of its people. Also just stealing their stuff is frowned on.) European firms complicit in West Bank Israeli crimes are increasingly exposed to legal action in European courts. Kerry is apparently acting on behalf of some section of American Jewry that is more clear-eyed than rightwing Israelis and sees this writing on the wall, and is trying to save Israel from Apartheid isolation with some version of a two-state solution.

Yup, Israel is on the road to isolation from the rest of the world.

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@oralloy,

You're lying yet again, Oralboy.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

You're lying yet again, Oralboy.

You can't point out a single untrue thing I've said.

You should start by trying to find an untrue statement, and only then consider whether that untrue statement was intentional.

And as always, you'd be a lot more pleasant without the childish name-calling.

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@cicerone imposter,

CI: You guys are too stupid to know when Jews are stealing lands from the Palestinians.

That stupidity runs rampant thru the vast majority of Americans, CI.
You guys are too stupid to know when americans are stealing lands and wealth from the world's poor. Why are you so fixated on Israel?

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@cicerone imposter,

Potent Pro-Israel Group Finds Its Momentum Blunted
By MARK LANDLERFEB. 3, 2014

WASHINGTON — The last time the nation’s most potent pro-Israel lobbying group lost a major showdown with the White House was when President Ronald Reagan agreed to sell Awacs surveillance planes to Saudi Arabia over the group’s bitter objections.

Since then, the group, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, has run up an impressive record of legislative victories in its quest to rally American support for Israel, using a robust network of grass-roots supporters and a rich donor base to push a raft of bills through Congress. Typically, they pass by unanimous votes.

But now Aipac, as the group is known, once again finds itself in a very public standoff with the White House. Its top priority, a Senate bill to impose new sanctions on Iran, has stalled after stiff resistance from President Obama, and in what amounts to a tacit retreat, Aipac has stopped pressuring Senate Democrats to vote for the bill.

“There’s been an unquestionable, undeniable shift in the perception of national security,” Mr. Blumenthal said. “I’m sensitive to the feelings, the resistance, the aversion of the general public to any kind of American military engagement.”

On Monday, 70 House Democrats sent Mr. Obama a letter backing his diplomatic efforts and opposing new sanctions. Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton added her voice to those urging no legislation.

But Aipac’s headaches go beyond Iran. In September, it threw an army of lobbyists behind an effort to win a congressional mandate for Mr. Obama’s threatened military strike on Syria. Facing certain failure in Congress, the president pulled the plug on the effort.

Earlier last year, it came under fire from the right for not publicly opposing Mr. Obama’s nomination of Chuck Hagel as secretary of defense, because of what critics said was his anti-Israel record.

Aipac officials said that their fund-raising is at record levels and that the March meeting will be the largest in its history. The group has helped secure $3.1 billion in American aid for Israel for the fiscal year and largely framed the public debate over Iran’s nuclear program.

More inside Link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/04/world/middleeast/potent-pro-israel-group-finds-its-momentum-blunted.html?hp&_r=0

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@Moment-in-Time,

Funny name - landlerfeb

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You're a fool! Japan has the US as an ally.

And, China is a creditor of the U.S. When push comes to shove, in my opinion, and China backs North Korea (as they did in the Korean Conflict) in any adversarial situation with Japan, the U.S. might find a reason for Japan to stand on its own two feet, so to speak.

Plus, if China is competing with Japan for Middle East oil, we might just do the turtle thing, and go into our shell. In my opinion, the land of the rising sun may beginning to see its sun set. China is going into space, and they are flexing their muscles, regarding those contested islands. I think Japan is going to have to be content with just making tv's. No political bravado. They might have to do a deep bow to other Asian powers. Perhaps, even prostrate itself in front of any potential adversaries.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Arabs were the first to produce coffee, and they "invented" math. You should learn a little about Arab history; they have contributed much to this world.

The reality today is that Europeans, and their fellow travelers lapped them sometime in the last 500 years. I think it might have had something to do with the Protestant Reformation and capitalism.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Advocate, Nobody is "in love with the Pals." Where do you dream up these foolish opinions?

We're only advocating for equal rights for the Pals, and the Jews of Israel stop stealing their lands. Most of us don't even know any Pals. We understand their plight living in a hell called Israel where they don't have equal legal rights, and their lands continue to be stolen.

Most of us would be advocating for the Jews of Israel if the situations were completely reversed. Get your head out of your ar......

Well, since the Pal's land really was the land of actual Arab states that lost a war to Israel, one can accuse Israel of being too kind, by not deporting the Pals back to the countries that once owned that land.

Since that is not your thinking, I understand how one might think you are infatuated with all things Palish. And, based on your emotionally charged accusations towards Israel ("stealing"), one might also think you have issues with Jews in Israel.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

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Last week the largest Danish bank divested from Israel’s HaPoalim Bank because the latter funds squatter firms on Palestinian territory, in contravention of international law. This step is the latest in a rash of European moves to divest from Israeli economic enterprises located on Palestinian land in the West Bank and illegally exploiting Palestinian resources. (The 1949 Geneva Convention forbids an Occupying power from flooding its citizens into militarily occupied territory or from altering the lifeways of its people. Also just stealing their stuff is frowned on.) European firms complicit in West Bank Israeli crimes are increasingly exposed to legal action in European courts. Kerry is apparently acting on behalf of some section of American Jewry that is more clear-eyed than rightwing Israelis and sees this writing on the wall, and is trying to save Israel from Apartheid isolation with some version of a two-state solution.

Yup, Israel is on the road to isolation from the rest of the world.

I think that was known when the Final Solution was effected with little concern world-wide.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

CI: You guys are too stupid to know when Jews are stealing lands from the Palestinians.

That stupidity runs rampant thru the vast majority of Americans, CI.
You guys are too stupid to know when americans are stealing lands and wealth from the world's poor. Why are you so fixated on Israel?

How can one steal from someone that is "poor"?

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@Foofie,

Foot, You are one stupid Jew. International human rights organizations have declared the Jewish expansion of settlements as ILLEGAL.

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@Foofie,

Foot, You are one stupid Jew. International human rights organizations have declared the Jewish expansion of settlements as ILLEGAL.

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