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World War II's latest 'victims'

 
 
au1929
 
Reply Tue 23 Sep, 2003 08:34 am
World War II's latest 'victims'

Plans for a memorial to Germans expelled from Poland and Czechoslavkia draw fire.

By Andreas Tzortzis | Special to The Christian Science Monitor

BERLIN – In the winter of 1945, 5-year-old Friedrich Vetter and his family were forced out of their home in what is now Poland and resettled in western Germany. The anguish of that upheaval has never left him. "Of course, it's difficult to talk about it," says Mr. Vetter, who is now a geographer. "I cry almost every time."
He is one of 15 million ethnic Germans who were pushed out of their homes in Eastern Europe by the Polish and Czech governments as retribution for Nazi aggression.
Now, the expellees want a memorial to their sufferings. But the idea has poured salt on wounds still open more than 50 years later - even as Poland and the Czech Republic prepare to join Germany as members of the European Union.
The issue was expected to intrude on EU entry-preparation talks Monday between Polish Prime Minister Leszek Miller and German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder.
Critics worry that the sufferings of countries victimized by the Nazis will be overlooked.
"No sympathy with the Germans!" was a typical headline in Polish newspapers recently. Last week, the head of the German League of Expellees was depicted in an SS uniform on a Polish magazine cover.
The League's proposal comes as Germans are starting to talk more openly about the plight of German civilians during and after the war. For decades, such discussion was taboo, considered by many as an echo of right-wing nationalism.
But now the concept of Germans as victims is being broached even by the left. In his 2001 novel "Crab Walk," Nobel-prize winner and leftist Günter Grass described the sinking of a Nazi vessel that was rescuing German war refugees from the advancing Soviet Army. There have also been recent documentaries on the victims of allied bombings in Dresden and Hamburg.
Josef Joffe, editor-in-chief of the German weekly Die Zeit, calls Grass's book a "tipping point" that occurred after decades of pent-up stories never told: "You take something and make it vivid, and that captures the imagination more than tomes and tomes of historical writing on what happened and its consequences."
He also attributes the new outlook to another phenomenon. "Call it post-modernity," he says. "Everybody wants to get recognition now, every group. The quest for victimhood has become an almost universal quest throughout the Western world."
"It's OK to discuss their own position as victims - but they were victims of their own war," says Tadeusz Cegielski, a Warsaw University professor who signed his name to a petition of international academics, journalists and artists against the center in July. "They were victims of the operation they started, and that's the problem."
The League of German Expellees, which represents two million German expellees and their descendants, has also drawn fire - from Poles, Czechs, and even Grass - for proposing to build the center in Berlin, once the capital of the Third Reich. The group has also been criticized for focusing on Germans only, rather than examining expulsions in a broad European context.
"When I hear that they want to build a European center, then I would suspect that it would be created as the result of a European dialogue," says Tomas Kafka, who heads the German-Czech Future Fund, an organization focused on German-Czech relations. "Nobody resents the German side for wanting to deal with their own history, but they should do it tactfully and with measure."
The League has long wanted the Polish and Czech governments to acknowledge crimes and human rights violations committed against the expellees. Chief among these are the decrees by former Czechoslovak President Edvard Benes in 1945 that stripped the country's German minority of property and citizenship. The decrees remain in effect today, with both the German and Czech governments reluctant to open the Pandora's box of claims and counterclaims that would ensue if they were repealed.
Shocked by the vitriol against the memorial, the League has begun a public relations campaign in Poland, the Czech Republic and Germany, advertising the Center for Expulsion as a place to begin dialogue about the past and bring attention to expulsions as an ongoing human rights issue.
The center would include a library, documentation center, and a museum. While the German government has not granted any site yet, the proposal has won support from about 400 German municipalities who are donating an average of about 10 cents per resident toward the $2.3 million budget.
The center will be "much more concentrated on the people that are being expelled or will be expelled in the future than it is on our history," says Peter Glotz, the League's co-director, who was five years old when he and his mother were forced to flee from what is today the Czech Republic. "That, of course, plays a role, but expulsion is a current political problem, not a historical one."
The Polish and Czech heads of government have endorsed a center that would examine expulsions in a larger context. But Poland has warned against drawing any moral equivalency between the sufferings of Germans and Poles.
To Vetter, a memorial would be a crucial testament to his harrowing experience. Though he grew up near Hanover, and spent 30 years of his life in Berlin, he has never shaken a feeling of displacement. Vetter's family was among the many Germans subjected to beatings, rape, and other humiliations by the Red Army advancing from the East. In their new home in the West, they met indifference and scorn from their countrymen.
Vetter returns two or three times a year to the town of his birth, Parchwitz, since renamed Prochowize. The area's coat of arms hangs in his office, near a map on which he retraces the route he marched along with other refugees.
"I can't be made responsible for what Hitler did," he says. "We need to be able to mourn. Let us confront this ... It is a good thing that can lead to reconciliation."

I find it hard to have sympathy for these people. It may be because the events of WW2 remain fresh in my memory. They are not something I read about and have been distorted by time. What is your opinion should they let sleeping dogs lie and not open old and festering wounds.
I should note that I remember how the erthnic Germans cheered when the German armies marched into those nations.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 23 Sep, 2003 12:53 pm
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23.09.2003

Leaders Quash Calls for Berlin Expulsion Center

Though they failed to find agreement on the draft EU constitution, Germany and Poland tried to lay to rest one of the most divisive issues between Germany and Poland -- a controversial expulsions center.




Proposals by a German group to build a documentation and research center recalling the expulsion of Europeans from their homelands during the 20th century riled Polish and Czech leaders for months on end. At the heart of the dispute are the plans of the center's initiators, the Association of German Expellees (BdV), to locate the facility in Berlin, Germany's historically charged capital.



The center, as envisioned by the BdV, would focus on the fate of the 14 million ethnic Germans who were expelled from European countries at the end of World War II as well as the millions of people from all over Europe who were uprooted by war and repressive regimes.



But critics claim the center could focus unduly on German expelles and turn the aggressor into the victim. The Polish government has argued for a Europe-wide center that would examine all types of expulsion that occurred across the continent during the past century.



But during a meeting in Gelsenkirchen, Germany, on Monday, German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and Polish Prime Minister Leszek Miller both said that Berlin should not be considered for the center.



"Due to the danger of one-sidedness, we do not want such a center in Berlin -- if at all," Schröder stressed before warning people against confusing the cause of expulsion which, he said, "lay in fascism and the wars that developed from it."



"There is no need to rewrite the history of World War II," Miller said after talks with his German colleague. "When Adolf Hitler attacked Poland, he didn't only condemn the Poles and other peoples to death and suffering but also many Germans."



Unresolved issue



Schröder and Miller agreed that a German-Polish initiative could form the basis of a broader European approach to establishing a center on expulsion. Miller suggested the Council of Europe could oversee the project, which could be established in a "neutral" location like Geneva, Sarajevo or Strasbourg.



But Erika Steinbach, head of the BdV, said the two politicians had no influence in the matter. "Neither Poland nor the German government can determine whether such a center comes into being in Berlin," she told Deutsche Welle.



Steinbach did welcome a European initiative, adding "it will not replace our plans in Berlin. We will continue our work with or without the German government."



Along with Steinbach, the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union, have spoken out in favor of establishing the center in Berlin. And they are not alone. Prominent German writer Ralph Giordano (photo), a Jew who survived the Holocaust and a recent recipient of the German Jewish community's highest honor, has spoken out in favor of the center "whether in Wroclaw, Berlin or elsewhere."



Back in August, Schröder said he did not intend on granting the controversial center a home in Germany. This was his first meeting with Miller since making that announcement.



Distrust of the Association of German Expellees grew so high in Poland in recent weeks that last week's issue of the Polish weekly WPROST featured a photo montage of Steinbach (photo), dressed as a Nazi officer, riding a subservient Gerhard Schröder.



Steinbach, who was taken aback by such criticisms in a recent trip to Poland, has defended her proposal. "I was shocked by the Polish reaction," she said at a recent panel in Warsaw, according to the Reuters news agency. "It disturbs me that the impression has arisen that we want to rewrite history. On the contrary: without Hitler, there would have been no expulsions."



Dispute over EU voting rights



In a separate development on Monday, Schröder and Miller also discussed the European Union's draft constitution, but the two failed to reach a consensus. Poland and a number of smaller EU countries have contested provisions in the constitution that would give larger EU countries greater voting powers. Miller has rejected calls for a system of rotating seats on the European Commission and instead demanded that each member state be given a seat at all times on the powerful body.



But Schröder remained firmly in favor of former French President Valéry Giscard D'Estaing's draft constitution. Otherwise "80 percent of the states with only 20 percent of the population would overrule 80 percent of the population in material questions," he said. "That raises significant problems of legitimacy for states like Germany that are the largest net contributors."



Miller said their was still time before EU governments are expected to vote on the draft constitution in December to find a compromise.


http://www.dw-world.de © Deutsche Welle
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 23 Sep, 2003 01:15 pm
re the article, au kindly posted:
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The League of German Expellees, which represents two million German expellees and their descendants, has also drawn fire - from Poles, Czechs, and even Grass - for proposing to build the center in Berlin, once the capital of the Third Reich.

Berlin was the capital of Prussia and has been the capital of Germany from 1871 until today.

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In his 2001 novel "Crab Walk," Nobel-prize winner and leftist Günter Grass described the sinking of a Nazi vessel that was rescuing German war refugees from the advancing Soviet Army.


10,582 people were crammed into the Wilhelm Gustloff. Most of the folks on the overcrowded ship, designed to carry 1,865 passengers, were German women and children.
It remains the worst disaster in shipping history, in terms of loss of life in a single vessel.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2003 10:34 am
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Honor the Uprooted Germans? Poles Are Uneasy
By RICHARD BERNSTEIN
Published: October 15, 2003
WROCLAW, Poland — Even as the idea of Europe is inexorably pushing Germany and Poland, those ancient neighbors and enemies, into the same club, the European Union, a different way of looking at history has been pushing them apart.Certainly this has been so in recent weeks, since a group of Germans led by a conservative member of Parliament proposed that a center be built in Berlin to study and remember the mass expulsions of 12 million to 13 million ethnic Germans from several countries of Eastern Europe after World War II.To its advocates the center would be a natural development, an effort to remember and understand a lamentable, often forgotten fact: that in the two years after Germany's defeat in 1945, ethnic Germans were forced to leave countries where they and their ancestors had lived, in some instances for centuries, and resettle in Germany itself.But in Polish places like this medieval, painstakingly restored city and in other countries, most notably the Czech Republic, the proposal has provoked an emotional and almost entirely negative reaction. That was summed up when a leading Warsaw newsmagazine put a cartoon on its cover showing the most prominent advocate of the proposed center, Erika Steinbach, as an officer in the Nazi SS, sitting astride a submissive Gerhard Schröder, the German chancellor.



http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/15/international/europe/15POLA.html?th
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