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Is Chirac to be believed?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 23 Sep, 2003 02:52 pm
perception

The French "Health watch dogs" (>Institut de veille sanitaire <) have published a documentary about the heath wave:
Impact sanitaire de la vague de chaleur en France survenue en août 2003

Just in case, here's the "google-translated website"


BTW This year was Europe's hottest summer for 500 years (link)
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 23 Sep, 2003 06:55 pm
Chirac is a giant blowhard who's trying to make a name for himself on the world stage.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 23 Sep, 2003 07:00 pm
Chirac is the leader of France. That's a pretty big name already.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 23 Sep, 2003 11:44 pm
hobitbob wrote:
Chirac is the leader of France. That's a pretty big name already.


Not only that, he's

Président de la République ! Laughing
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 12:07 am
The French are dismal failure who understand nothing about Economics.

Unemployment rates in France have consistently been in teh double digits. The French government and Labor Unions have taxed and regulated their economy almost to death. For example, even the most basic firing decisions in France are subject to bureaucratic review. That scares almost any entrepreneur from creating any jobs. And if you do create jobs in France, you must pay an enormous pay roll tax and an atrociously high minimum wage.


That's what happens when you have an economics system with its roots in Socialism.

I am convinced that most of the French resistance to American initiatives comes from envy.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 12:15 am
I think one of the reasons that the French are opposed to our liberation of Iraq is that they are basically cowards.

Shirer in is definitive "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" recounts how some bravery and decisiveness from the French Generals just before the invasion of the Sudetenland by Germany might have caused the collapse of Hitler's military.

When Chirac says that we must turn over Iraq to the Iraqis quickly, he is probaby harking back to the French lightening surrender to the Nazis in World War II.

I don't think it took more than a month.

The French probably think we are as pusillanimous as they.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 12:28 am
Italgato wrote:
Unemployment rates in France have consistently been in teh double digits.


Yes, between 1993 and 1999.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 12:35 am
Mr. Hinteler: Have I committed an error?
Please be so good as to inform us as to the correct Unemployment stastics for France in 2000, 2001,and 2003.

Are they anywhere near as horribly high as in the failing system in the USA which now has an umemplyment rate of 6.1%?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 12:41 am
Here we go - also I don't see a chance, to get the 2003 figures, since we Europeans are still in that year:

France, enemployment rates, statistics
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 12:45 am
Italgato wrote:


Are they anywhere near as horribly high as in the failing system in the USA which now has an umemplyment rate of 6.1%?


Well, I don't think so.

On the other hand, French (and German, Italian etc.) unemployment figures include persons as well, who are three, four, five ... years unemployed. I may be wrong, but as far as I know, those are excluded and not counted in the USA.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 12:46 am
I am very sorry, Mr. Hinteler, but your link does not work. It is probably an inadvertent error on your part. However, I have discovered that the current Unemplyment rate in France is 9.6%

You must forgive me for my error. I was off by .4.

That is still quite high don't you think for the most cultured country in the world?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 12:47 am
Try this one

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?in+fr , last line.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 01:05 am
When I look at the pygmy nations like France and Germany who still think they are important in the world and note their puffed up announcements, I go to the GDP figures.

USA- 10,208,000,000

Germany- 1,847,000.000

France- 1, 307,000.000

Maybe they should send some people here to study our economic system to find out how they can get their GDP's to go higher.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 01:08 am
Well, actually you were saying
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Mr. Hinteler: Have I committed an error?
Please be so good as to inform us as to the correct Unemployment stastics for France in 2000, 2001,and 2003.


and before
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Unemployment rates in France have consistently been in teh double digits.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 01:09 am
Thank You Mr. Hinteler. That link worked. I noted that there was an 8.8% Unemployment rate last year-2002. I am very much afraid that the last report showed that the French Unemployment rate was now up to 9.6%

As I said, some French intellectuals should be sent to the USA to learn how to increase employment in their country, but I am afraid that they couldn't stand the barbaric cooking in the USA. Maybe we should just send them How to books.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 01:12 am
AS I said, Mr. Hinteler, 9.6% is the latest number.

I was .4% off. My apologies. I am afraid, However, that if France doesn't get into Iraq to try to enforce all of the Oil contracts France thought it had with Iraq, the 9.6% will go up to 12% soon.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 06:35 am
To paraphrase. Chirac is a shitty little leader from a shitty little country.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 07:00 am
au1929 wrote:
To paraphrase. Chirac is a shitty little leader from a shitty little country.


That's what *I* was trying to say...
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 08:25 am
So, can the conservative's dislike of France be taken as evidence of their disdain for civilization? Smile
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2003 08:39 am
Hobitbob
Bush was addressing the UN. The most irrelevant debating society ever devised. A considerable number which are peopled by representatives of governments that are corrupt totalitarian dictatorships. I thought he was going to them hat in hand thankfully I was mistaken. Will we get assistance from them, I doubt it, they are firm in there commitment that it is better to receive than give?
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