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California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 10:16 am
@neologist,
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Bible writers freely recorded their own deficiencies. I freely admit mine.


Do you think that they were meaning to record their deficiencies or do you think that they were meaning to share the truth?

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Did you really believe your grandfather when he told you asking questions is a sign of intelligence?


No I did not believe him but I did think about what he was saying. It was not until I got older that I notice the value in questioning things.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 10:23 am
Why must we do this every time we want to turn a page on this thread?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 10:23 am
@neologist,
bump
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 10:24 am
Again, I say : "Why must we do this every time we want to turn a page on this thread?"
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 10:24 am
@neologist,
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Why must we do this every time we want to turn a page on this thread?


God's will.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 10:43 am
RexRed said:
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Jesus had three dads if the Bible's claim about Jesus being God are true...

How can a man be his own father? Heaven knows....


Not only that, but it was a polygynous union, just as illegal as polygamous unions.

Nothing odd about being your own father, it's just one degree of separation less than being your own grandpa:
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 10:57 am
@MontereyJack,
That was a good video and made sense when you think about it. Razz
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 11:24 am
@reasoning logic,
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Are you unable to recognize the intellectual deficiency that the writers of the bible had?


I am because I have no idea what those writers were dealing with or attempting to deal with. I can guess of course but my guesses are grossly inadequate enough for me not to pass any sort of judgement upon them. Doing so is stupid and arrogant. A Magian culture in its short pants can only be judged by experts and even then only speculatively and very tentatively.

Sin is just another word for error or for politically incorrect or for crime. One has no choice but to allow that those writers considered male homosexuality an error for reasons they felt important. Military, economic or social. Weakening, de-stabilising or bad taste.

Very few people in those days were literate and obviously those who were literate constituted the governing classes. To impeach a governing class of 2,500 years ago in the conditions they lived in is self-evidently ridiculous and betrays an ego out of control.

In the future people might think that persecuting Bradley Manning was intellectually deficient. And a few other things which are acceptable to us.

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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 11:38 am
@reasoning logic,
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That was a good video and made sense when you think about it.


But what you think about things is not necessarily what authentic thinking about things consists of despite how self-flattering it is for you to delude yourself that you do think about things in order to conclude that what makes sense to you actually does so intellectually.

I'm surprised you are not dizzy from the constant spinning. Spin goes by the name because it goes in circles and the skill is in the disguising of the fact for those with sluggish brain parts.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 12:03 pm
@spendius,
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I'm surprised you are not dizzy from the constant spinning.


It only occurs when I read your posts.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sat 24 Aug, 2013 12:23 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
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Why must we do this every time we want to turn a page on this thread?
God's will.
Homophobic hamsters?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 25 Aug, 2013 03:42 pm
@RexRed,
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Yes that is the video I shared


I did not like how the male customer high fived the waitress for telling the two men they had to leave because they were a gay family.

Rex I have been studying history lately because I failed to do it when I was younger and now I have an interest.

I have been studying Hitler's death camps so to speak and I have come across many things that go against my teachings in school.

No I do not hate Jews nor do I hate anyone else but I am afraid that I have been lied to just as I have been lied to about religion.

I would just like to hear your input on this.

hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2013 04:53 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS3n9ZSCQAEJggG.jpg
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2013 05:07 pm
@hingehead,
Why cant I view what you are sharing? It says that image has errors.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 30 Aug, 2013 01:28 am
@reasoning logic,
The way I have learned history RL and the way I believe it to be true was at first the concentration camps were holding areas for Jewish refugees displaced by Hitler's wars...

Then German commentators (Aryans) started writing propaganda about the "Jewish Problem" and things went downhill from there. They talked of expelling them from the countries in question until they eventually became bold enough in their propaganda to suggest "extermination"... When allowed, racists become gradually more emboldened to attack those who they feel are inferior.

The quaint little music theaters were converted into gas chambers and the extermination net was widened to include all "undesirables". i.e. People with odd shaped facial and cranial features... Homosexuals and anyone deemed not "Aryan".

It all depends on what part of the war you were in. There was much more of a chance to escape at the beginning but once the German killing machine was in place escape was near impossible.

Horrible experiments were performed on Jews, those of other races and people with handicaps were also exposed to hideous forms of human torture. The Nuremberg trials convicted these monsters and saw to their executions.

Just consider the racism in the republican party, it is not a myth, there are hateful, bigoted and disgusting racists in the republican party and if given the same chance the world could once again spiral down into such deprivation, chaos and evil.

Do you doubt the lynchings of blacks in the old south RL? Well the German extermination of Jews was no less real... This propaganda about the holocaust not being real is put out by the same racists, Aryans and today even some Muslim deniers.

All to express their hatred for Israel.

People are people and we are all equal and part of the same family of humanity... Anyone who thinks racist or bigoted is the lesser of our species...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 30 Aug, 2013 01:54 am
@RexRed,
Thanks for your reply you gave me more to think about. Smile

I would never doubt that there were extreme acts carried out by extreme people during the war and I do not doubt that there were many extreme people at that time but I do wonder how much of what we have been told is actually what took place as the norm.
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 30 Aug, 2013 02:31 am
@RexRed,
I would like to add a few more things RL to what I wrote...

I have a few "German" friends who survived Hitler's war.

They told me that by the end of the war Hitler and Germany were broke. The west had blocked nearly ever possible way of Germany obtaining resources from the global trade networks. Even bread in Germany was scarce. Many "Germans" had lice and were jobless and chronically poor... Is this video saying with Germany in this state Hitler was building theaters for Jews? This YouTube video is completely out of context to the real chain of events that led up to Hitler's mass genocide.

In the Netherlands the German stranglehold on the country bears out the same facts. With Ann Frank, she was not even sent to a concentration camp she was just shot once discovered. This might give you an indication of how things had really deteriorated.

Th Dutch people had eaten all of the tulip bulbs in the fields because there was no food and they took many of the wooden planks holding up the long row houses and burnt them to keep warm in the winter. This is why today these houses are often crooked and unaligned because the foundation timbers are no longer present.

The propaganda in the video you posted does not really make sense in light of the numerous facts about the war... I would say the YouTube video you posted was compiled by an idiot who has no real sense of history whatsoever...
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Reply Fri 30 Aug, 2013 02:43 am
@reasoning logic,
Multiply what you have been told about the Holocaust by a thousand and you may arrive at an accurate summation of the actual events.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Selection_Birkenau_ramp.jpg

"Selektion" on the Judenrampe, Auschwitz, May/June 1944. To be sent to the right meant slave labor; to the left, the gas chamber. This image shows the arrival of Hungarian Jews from Carpatho-Ruthenia, many of them from the Berehov ghetto. The photographer was Ernst Hofmann or Bernhard Walter of the SS. Image courtesy of Yad Vashem[1]
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Reply Mon 2 Sep, 2013 06:17 pm
Our Christian Prime Minister explains why he is pro marriage equality to a local pastor on national TV

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 2 Sep, 2013 06:42 pm
@hingehead,
Amen preacher let us hear more wisdom like this in the future.
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