California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

@cicerone imposter,

I already responded to that article twice... i'll post you the same thing... again.

I challenge your assertion and want you to back up your claim. Every time I have this discussion with a homosexual, or someone who is supporting them, they always make this same argument about pedophiles can't be labeled homosexuals and they always source the EXACT same webpage/document:

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/...olestation.html

The problem is, this is not a study or even a legitimate survey. This is a glorified blog entry by a self-described "internationally recognized authority on sexual prejudice (also called homophobia), hate crimes, and AIDS stigma." Not only is this not an actual scientific study, it is simply this one man surveying a group of studies that he hand picks ALL of which are from the 70's and 80's except for a couple. He then comes out and says "case closed, after reviewing all these studies that I hand picked, I've concluded that homosexuals cannot be pedophiles." Providing this as a "source" is tantamount to me sourcing Jerry Falwell who went and hand picked a group of studies from the 70's and 80's and he comes out and tells you that "case closed, after reviewing all these studies I've concluded that homosexuals are all pedophiles."

Now... How about you back up your claim. Show that pedophiles have no sexual attraction to adults. Show that pedophiles have no preference in regards to the gender of their victim. Until then a male pedophile that has sex with a young boy is a homosexual

You see this is nothing more than an excuse. The only way homosexuals can justify the absolute ABSURDLY high rate of pedophilia in the homosexual community is to say that the guy who wants to have sex with that young boy isn't ACTUALLY a homosexual... he's some kind of weird third sexuality so you can't pin those activities on homosexuality. It's a ludicrous position to take.

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

You are sick and fucked in the head asshole...

Yes he is, just put him on ignore like I did and you don't see anything he posts. He's just trolling and will go away when ignored.

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@JeffreyEqualityNewma,

Yes red do like Jeffrey did. When your ad hominem attacks and attempts to silence the opposition by attempting to shame them with words like bigot fail. Just stick your fingers in your ears and run away like a coward like Jeffrey.

That doesn't sound like a losing position at all.

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@Shadow X,

Once again homosexual men are not the only men who can have a propensity toward pedophilia... shall I repeat that again? Bisexual men make up 80% of all men. Bisexual men have their own version of NAMBLA it is called organized crime and sex trafficking. And straight men can also be pedophiles... They got their secret "clubs" too... To me the very thought is repulsive.

None of this is moral or ethical. Gays are not the only men who sometime turn out pedophile. Bisexual men may very well be more likely to offend. And no scientific tests have ever been conducted to measure whether straight men are actually more likely to offend. Men are men... You are just labeling and spouting arbitrary nonsense, then making conclusions with broken logic and blissfully proclaiming, "There my religion is true, praise God! Think again...

I equate your disingenuous religion and its atrocious Bible with NAMBLA. So it is like the pot calling the kettle black and from my perspective there is no excuse for either of you.

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@RexRed,

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Once again homosexual men are not the only men who can have a propensity toward pedophilia... shall I repeat that again? Bisexual men make up 80% of all men.

I think that you may be correct about what you stated but I could be wrong. I have encountered many men in my life that seem to possibly be bio but I am sure I could be interpreting their gestures the wrong way.

Shadow X seems to have info that may back up your claim to a degree.

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A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.

My question would be, "is it possible that all groups of people have stats about them that may be seen in a negative light? If so should we judge all the members of that group according to the statistics, as if all of them engage in the behavior being described by the statistical analysis?

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@RexRed,

Where have you come up with the ludicrous claim that 80% of all men are bi-sexual?

Obviously heterosexual men can be pedophiles (pedophilia isn't limited to a single gender) and so you don't need to make ridiculous assertions to "prove" your point.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Prove you don't dream about guys Finn... Smile

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@RexRed,

He's been trolling only men. Mr. Green

Not only that, but I try to discourage him at every point with my challenge about his stupidity, but he keeps following me!

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@RexRed,

Prove 80% of men are bi-sexual.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

suck a Popsicle.

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@RexRed,

Thanks for acknowledging that you cannot.

You really are a tool Rex.

Only a moron woud argue that all pedophiles are homosexuals, but that isn't good enough for you, you have to make ridiculous claims that 80% of all men are bi-sexual and that, for some unknown but clearly bigoted reason, bi-sexual men are more inclined to pedophilia than homosexuals or heterosexuals.

What's your problem with bi-sexuals? Not pure enough?

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nothing realms

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@reasoning logic,

Uhh reasoning logic I think you need to work on your reasoning and your logic.

Those numbers don't indicate that 86% of all men are bisexual or homosexual. Those numbers indicate that 86% of all PEDOPHILES are either homosexual or bisexual. As I pointed out before, I dont' care what semantics you want to use and what you want to call them. It's not strictly homosexuals... it is those who engage in homosexual activity... whether you want to call them homosexual or bisexual is really of no importance.

As far as your second statement... Show me the numbers that indicate that heterosexuals are overrepresented in ANY category by 2600% like those who engage in homosexuality are in regards to pedophilia. You won't be able to find one. If you could, you already would have.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

That's why I didn't respond to his moronic argument. To even attempt to suggest that 80% of men are bisexual is simply a retarded argument. There's nothing, anywhere that even remotely suggests that... at all... except for in bigred's homosexual head.

Second... I did not argue that ALL pedophiles are homosexuals. I never have. That would be absurd. My argument is that homosexuals (or those who engage in homosexual behavior) are VASTLY overrepresented in regards to pedophilia statistics. And that's not debatable.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/study-shows-how-many-americans-are-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgender/news/2011/04/07/18551

"The study shows that an estimated .3% of Americans are transgender. Additionally, the Williams study shows 3.5% of American adults are gay, lesbian, or bisexual, including 1.8% of American adults who are bisexual."

So at MOST... and this INCLUDES bisexuals... you're looking at 3-5% of ALL american adults are either homosexual or bisexual.

Those who engage in homosexual behavior in regards to pedophilia are STILL overrepresented by a huge margin in with a 26% rate.

You see that's how you do it Red... you actually provide a source for your claims. Something you can't do.

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@Shadow X,

Your study you posted relies on the inherent honesty of people willingly divulging deep seated sexual secrets, not science... Inaccurate to say the very last.

It is like going into a prison and asking convicts if they are guilty or not.

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@Shadow X,

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Those numbers don't indicate that 86% of all men are bisexual or homosexual. Those numbers indicate that 86% of all PEDOPHILES are either homosexual or bisexual.

Thats cool. Cool

Like I said we can find statistics that make us all look bad depending on what group you would like to study.

Are white men more likely to carry out mass killings like Newtown tragedy or Aurora killings?

Is there something about the white, male, middle-class experience that makes it easier for sick young men to turn schools and movie theaters into graveyards? Some studies say, yes.

Are black males more likely to be serial killers?

Should we take away the rights of any people based on racial, ethnic, gender or religious statistics?

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@Shadow X,

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Those numbers don't indicate that 86% of all men are bisexual or homosexual. Those numbers indicate that 86% of all PEDOPHILES are either homosexual or bisexual. As I pointed out before, I dont' care what semantics you want to use and what you want to call them. It's not strictly homosexuals... it is those who engage in homosexual activity... whether you want to call them homosexual or bisexual is really of no importance.

My math is not that good but if you were to calculate the numbers what would you come up with using the info you shared in your link?

Your link

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Nearly all of the offenders in sexual assaults reported to law
enforcement were male (96%). Female offenders were
most common in assaults against victims under age 6. For
these youngest victims, 12% of offenders were females,
compared with 6% for victims ages 6 through 12, and 3% for
victims ages 12 through 17. Overall, 6% of the offenders
who sexually assaulted juveniles were female, compared
with just 1% of the female offenders who sexually assaulted
adults.
The age profile of offenders in sexual assault varied with the
nature of the crime (table 5). Overall, 23% of sexual assault
offenders were under age 18 and 77% were adults.
Juveniles were a substantially smaller proportion of the
offenders in forcible rapes (17%) than in sexual assaults
with an object (23%), forcible fondlings (27%), and incidents of forcible sodomy (36%

RexRed

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Once again homosexual men are not the only men who can have a propensity toward pedophilia... shall I repeat that again? Bisexual men make up 80% of all men.

reasoning logic quoting your link.

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A 1988 study of 229 convicted child molesters published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior found that 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.

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@Shadow X,

The 3.5% "implies that there are approximately 9 million LGBT Americans, a figure roughly equivalent to the population of New Jersey."

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