California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Zinnia Jones has an online shop. She's promoting it. She's an opportunist who has spotted a vacant niche in the market.

The Queen of Atheism she styles herself. Dressed as a Christian in the video.

Are you an atheist Rex?

I sell t-shirts online... am I an opportunist too? Or just transsexuals who try to make a buck on the ridiculous policies of the right wing?

I am an agnostic. I used to actually like the catholic church till they started dumping money donated to their "charities" meant to help the downtrodden and feed the poor into their political hatred of homosexuals campaign.

Now they are nothing more than an irritation and another terrorist group using the bible to hijack the message of Jesus, so 14 year old gays will kill themselves. They will molest the young one way or another.

Fear and intimidation...

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

$26 for a cheap shirt with a logo.

Where are the pre-printed shirts manufactured? I think we should be told.

Are Bradley Manning's defence lawyers okay with Zinnia having a milk at the udder to promote her shirts.

My t-shirts are over 30 dollars each... and probably less creative and vital to society...

This again has nothing to do with her t-shirts and everything to do with your hatred and bigotry. One comforting thought is the more people Zinnia reaches with her message of GLBT tolerance, the less hateful people like you there will be in this world...

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@RexRed,

You've been writing your own scripts too long Rex. It's all about money.

In China Christianity has been a growing minority religion for over 200 years. Growth has been more significant since the loosening of restrictions on religion after the 1970s within the People's Republic.

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Homosexuality has been legal in the mainland PRC since 1997; it was removed from the Ministry of Health's list of mental illnesses in 2001. Same-sex unions and adoptions are not legal, and there are no anti-discrimination laws. Though men who have sex with men are included in anti-HIV efforts, gay relationships are censored from television and movies, and police raids continued in 2010.

Under an atheist government.

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@RexRed,

I think you are damaging the LGBT cause. You are polarising the sides by your emotionally driven attempts to be its spokesperson.

You have stooped to bringing us pictures and reports of a demo in which all of 15 people took part. Gee!!

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

You've been writing your own scripts too long Rex. It's all about money.

In China Christianity has been a growing minority religion for over 200 years. Growth has been more significant since the loosening of restrictions on religion after the 1970s within the People's Republic.

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Homosexuality has been legal in the mainland PRC since 1997; it was removed from the Ministry of Health's list of mental illnesses in 2001. Same-sex unions and adoptions are not legal, and there are no anti-discrimination laws. Though men who have sex with men are included in anti-HIV efforts, gay relationships are censored from television and movies, and police raids continued in 2010.

Under an atheist government.

Taoism, the Paganism of China

Taoism is one of five religions recognized by the People's Republic of China. The government regulates its activities through a state bureaucracy (the China Taoist Association).

Does that sound like separation of church and state?

Is that truly a secular government that "regulates religion"?

Apparently you don't know what you are talking about.

And your point is?

We still don't have marriage equality and 14 year old gay boys are still bullied to the point of suicide... Catholic priests are molesting children wherever and whenever they can find vulnerable societies... the right wing are still carrying signs that read "god hates fags" and the religious christian right (if you want to even call them Christians) are still raising millions, as we speak, to stop marriage equality.

And I am polarizing society?

I am standing up for my human rights and if that is amalgamous to polarizing society then so be it.

Or... you just a homophobic bigot trying to tell gays what they can and can't do in the dignity of their own lives.

It is marriage INequality that is polarizing society not me. I am just a natural response to that inequality. This is my life's purpose, I was born this way and for this purpose will I stand and with those of my ilk who stand with me...

I stand firmly with the my gay brothers and sisters (and those who are willing to accept us) they are the church of my faith. All else grows from that common purpose. I will not be moved from that till we are free.

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@spendius,

No, spendi, people like you are damaging the LGBT cause with your negative message. You know not what you do; christians rarely understand when they are being assholes to the general population about equality. Look at what the US bishops are trying to do by not allowing contraceptives at catholic institutions? Men trying to control the sexual activities of women who wish to prevent pregnancy or STD. Those same bishops are also guilty of raping young boys and molesting them - or hiding those activities by other bishops.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Men trying to control the sexual activities of women who wish to prevent pregnancy or STD.

Women know what to do to prevent pregnancy. The Church takes the view that men are trying to control women by encouraging them to contraceptivise themselves.

Getting under the sheets with this I find the Church's view correct. Contraception is self-evidently a convenience for men. It's too obvious to argue about. And when it runs to costs for women of the proportions it now has it becomes insupportable.

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@spendius,

You don't understand the sexual drive of men; most rapes (my guess is over 90%) happen by men.

When it's bishops over young boys, it's 100%.

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I know this is unrelated, sort of... RexRED just had to post it somewhere.

Love conquereth all! Smile

Red teddy bears, heart-shaped purses, nighties: Baghdad embraces Valentine's Day

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46364685/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TzlLfrEgd2A

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@cicerone imposter,

I don't understand the sexual drive of men!!! Good grief. Fill me in quick.

The LGBT faction were doing very well for themselves when a few hotheads started demanding to be officially classed as married persons. If they didn't expect a backlash in response to going that far they must be really stupid. They had become tolerated. Accepted even.

And that's all I ever objected to. And 45 states object too. So anything you say about me applies equally to those states. And the UK objects as well. The whole of Islam. China. India.

And I'm the odd one out. Sheesh!! What utter bigots you lot are. What is there--3 of you. Insult away--it digs the hole deeper.

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@spendius,

Minority and women rights were gained by active demonstrations against unequal treatment under our laws.

You have the application of bigots backwards. Look in the mirror; you'll see one bloody bigot.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

I don't understand the sexual drive of men!!! Good grief. Fill me in quick.

The LGBT faction were doing very well for themselves when a few hotheads started demanding to be officially classed as married persons. If they didn't expect a backlash in response to going that far they must be really stupid. They had become tolerated. Accepted even.

And that's all I ever objected to. And 45 states object too. So anything you say about me applies equally to those states. And the UK objects as well. The whole of Islam. China. India.

And I'm the odd one out. Sheesh!! What utter bigots you lot are. What is there--3 of you. Insult away--it digs the hole deeper.

Gays have always wanted marriage equality... but the time never seemed to provide an opening. Even when we were considered "mentally ill" gays still dreamed of marriage equality. "We have come a long way baby..."

Excerpt: One of Abraham Lincoln's letters to Joshua Speed
"How miserably things seem to be arranged in this world! If we have no friends, we have no pleasure; and if we have them, we are sure to lose them, and be doubly pained by the loss,"

letter signed:
Yours friend forever
A. Lincoln

On February 13, Mr. Lincoln again wrote Speed: "You know my desire to befriend you is everlasting -- that I will never cease, while I know how to do any thing."

Comment: You insult yourself Spendius, like you have some strange penance to pay.

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@RexRed,

Mr Lincoln said in a speech in Charleston on Sept 18, 1858--

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I will say, then, that I am not, nor have ever been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races [applause]: that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office. . . .

And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

You shouldn't quote people without knowing anything about them Rex just as props for your position.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Mr Lincoln said in a speech in Charleston on Sept 18, 1858--

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I will say, then, that I am not, nor have ever been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races [applause]: that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office. . . .

And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

You shouldn't quote people without knowing anything about them Rex just as props for your position.

Someone's words are generally a window into their soul, especially the words of Abraham Lincoln who seemed quite adept at saying what he meant and meaning what he said.

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In Which States Can Ellen Get Fired For Being Gay?

http://front.moveon.org/in-which-states-can-ellen-get-fired-for-being-gay/?rc=daily.share&id=35709-20778429-hpD4c9x

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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Men trying to control the sexual activities of women who wish to prevent pregnancy or STD.

Women know what to do to prevent pregnancy. The Church takes the view that men are trying to control women by encouraging them to contraceptivise themselves.

Getting under the sheets with this I find the Church's view correct. Contraception is self-evidently a convenience for men. It's too obvious to argue about. And when it runs to costs for women of the proportions it now has it becomes insupportable.

Men are NOT trying to control women by encouraging them to contraceptivise themselves...

Contraceptives are a choice for women (and men) and the men of the church are trying to obstruct that choice...

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I would like to one day adopt some form of catholicism, but as long as the institution shields pedophiles, continues their campaign against marriage equality and these political sexist antics, I am incapable of any form of genuine devotion.

No matter what kind of doctrine they think they hold, they have lost sight of what is important, sheltering the young from "mostly" their own pedophile clergy, feeding the poor and loving the downtrodden of society with a pure and honest conscience.

A few years ago I had a vision, the angel Michael came to me and told me to become an atheist... I found it impossible in my heart comply, so I compromised with him and became an agnostic. He has been with me ever since.

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@RexRed,

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Men are NOT trying to control women by encouraging them to contraceptivise themselves...

Many a man has had a vasectomy to put an end to his complicity with the spaying of women and the indignities it entails. Which is another item the homosexual avoids.

What you said is a mere assertion. And a vast industry manufacturing the loveless items scientifically designed for the purpose are right behind it. In fact it is where you learned the mantra from.

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@RexRed,

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Contraceptives are a choice for women (and men) and the men of the church are trying to obstruct that choice.

They are not. They are simply saying that it is a condition of being a member of the Church. No one is forced to be a member of it. And its penance for infractions cannot be considered anything but extremely lenient.

Were we only required to recite a clause of the Highway Code three times for infractions of motoring regulations it would be chaos.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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Contraceptives are a choice for women (and men) and the men of the church are trying to obstruct that choice.

They are not. They are simply saying that it is a condition of being a member of the Church. No one is forced to be a member of it. And its penance for infractions cannot be considered anything but extremely lenient.

Were we only required to recite a clause of the Highway Code three times for infractions of motoring regulations it would be chaos.

Penance, lenient? Apparently you have forgotten about the Spanish inquisition... How many suffered under their torture before the world said enough is enough! They only change when there is a public outcry or "reformation"... and they are forced to change or be rendered irrelevant....

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