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Why will the G.O.P. become more, not less, extreme?

 
 
JPB
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2008 09:25 pm
@Thomas,
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Conservative leader Richard Viguerie on afternoon conference call: "The number one mistake conservatives made is we became an appendage of the Republican Party."

"Going forward, I think you're going to see conservatives look to themselves for leadership."

Also called Palin "a major rock star" among the right. He spoke following a gathering of conservative leaders in Virginia. Time


I assume the word "conservative" here is referring to social conservatives not fiscal conservatives. If so, the I hope that's precisely what they do. Form their own far-right splintered faction where they will be an even smaller minority than they are now and let the republicans get back to thinking about fiscal policy and foreign policy.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2008 08:21 am
@Thomas,
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blatham wrote:
The fracturing of the movement is going to cause problems for people like Limbaugh. They can (they will) trim their sails as Thomas suggests but it will not be at all clear in which direction they're better off trimming towards.

Hey, they can always play it safe by attacking whatever Obama is doing. No need to do constructive things for their own side.


Yes. There are two primary givens here. One: Obama and liberalism will be attacked. Two: the media will be attacked as liberal and in the bag for Obama. (*there's actually a third here as well, immediately evident across the rightwing media universe beginning in earnest more than a week ago when the probabilities of this election were becoming very clear...warnings of an imminent attempt to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine).

But they simply will not be able to avoid the internal movement turmoil. They can't and don't want to avoid it. Serious moves towards moderation will work in direct opposition to their personal livelihoods and all the perks that have come from the appropriately named 'wingnut welfare' universe, not to mention huge corporate profits. This is from five years ago...
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The Rush brand has also become big business. Since he was first syndicated by EFM Media in 1988, his show has generated more than $1 billion in revenue for his networks and stations. Premiere Radio Networks, Clear Channel Communications' programming arm, which took over syndication of The Rush Limbaugh Show in 1998, negotiated in 2001 a record-breaking $285 million contract with Limbaugh to lock him in through 2006. He is Premiere's biggest money-maker, generating between $40 million and $50 million annually in advertising revenue, about 15 percent to 18 percent of the company's total take.
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/esearch/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1953833

His recent contract is for $400 million given that he continues to do what he does through eight more years. Then consider all the related money moving around (as in the above passage). Then consider all the others like him (O'Reilly, Prager, Medved, Hewitt, etc etc), the huge print industry (there's a damned good reason that Brent Bozell's Wednesday 'conservative summit' included Regnery).
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2008 08:50 am
This is quite interesting...note the title.
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Conservative Leaders Meet, Plan to Battle Obama’s Agenda " With or Without Republicans

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=38961
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2008 09:21 am
And here...
http://www.spectator.org/archives/2008/11/06/the-future-of-the-right

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There's a strong feeling, Tyrrell said, that social conservatives, free market conservatives, and national security conservatives will all be able to work together.

He also said that "there's a sense that the Republicans on Capitol Hill are freer of wobbly-kneed Republicans than they were before the election."

Regnery said, "The consensus was that this was not a mandate for Democrats, that this country is still center-right. The overriding fear was that the Republican Party does not represent conservatives," and there was a desire to get behind genuinely conservative candidates.



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Looking back at the campaign, they felt that John McCain wasn't really a conservative, and that Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber were the two best things that happened because of the way they connected with people.


Good god in heaven.

ps...it looks as if (one report on this so far) that Palin attended via video conferencing. Joe? Perhaps via a long plastic pipe.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2008 01:01 pm
On the "they will trim their sails" hope...

How much trimming gets one from what we see in this linke below to some direction even mildly responsive to reality?

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It's not just Limbaugh and Hannity
http://mediamatters.org/items/200811060005?f=h_top
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2008 02:39 pm
This is a piece at Townhall today. I'll note that sentence I've bolded. But, aside from that, can anyone make coherent sense of the claims in blue and red?
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A cabal of conservative leaders convened for a meeting of the minds to plot a way to reinvigorate the Republican brand as Democratic President-elect Barack Obama is being ushered into office.

Conservatives who attended the event believe Obama untruthfully campaigned on traditionally Republican issues, like tax cuts, and that the GOP must regain credibility on key issues, like spending, before they can begin winning again nationally.

“In contrast to all the talk about a mandate that President-elect Barack Obama has, he has nothing of the sort,” said organizer Brent Bozell, president of the Media Research Center. “Why? Because Barack Obama did everything in his power to run on anything but the liberal agenda of the Democratic Party.”

Bozell saw the 2008 election as a decision between a “moderate” and a “far-left” candidate. The moderate lost. Therefore, “the moderate wing of the Republican Party is dead, it is finished,” Bozell said...

Bozell pushed them to consider supporting a “whole new generation of organizations, particularly on the grassroots level” and “massively increasing the fundraising.”

Others demanded that conservatives, rather than moderate Republicans, be appointed to fill leading roles on Capitol Hill.

“Conservative are unhappy, upset even angry with national Republican leaders," said Viguerie. "People feel like they will not get to the promised land unless we get new leadership."
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2008 03:14 pm
@dyslexia,
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For one thing, projections suggest that this election will drive many
of the remaining Republican moderates out of Congress,
while leaving the hard right in place.

Reagan did not realize how bad a mistake he made in choosing Bush.
As Republicans, we belong representing the Originalist American philosophy
of the Founders, as expressed by Barry Goldwater.
Neither the Bushes nor McC were conservatives.

Let 's do it right.


I do not entertain any ideas of "conspiracy"
but we all know that the media are near 100% left leaning.
Surely very few voted for McC or Bob Barr.
Thay don 't need to conspire; thay just do what comes naturally.

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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 18 Nov, 2008 07:57 am
hey dys...this is for you. Cockup in the lockup.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1117082jail1.html
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 18 Nov, 2008 08:33 am
@blatham,
If I were the judge of that, I 'd dismiss the complaint,
because thay did not leave the jail.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 18 Nov, 2008 08:47 am
@dyslexia,
Projections suggest that this election will result in a backlash against the left.
In the next 18 to 24 months Americans will realize that our government is totally out of control and blame the coming recession on the left.

parados
 
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Reply Tue 18 Nov, 2008 08:51 am
@H2O MAN,
You have to realize that your "projections" H2O are nothing more than delusions.

The coming recession? It's here already. It just takes 6 months for the economists to realize it and announce it.
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 18 Nov, 2008 09:32 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I'd give them time off for initiative.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 18 Nov, 2008 10:32 am
@parados,
The recession is not here yet, but it could come if our government does not reduce it's size and spending.
If Obama goes ahead with his campaign promises to grow the government and increase spending and
taxes our country will quickly go into a recession and possibly a depression.

Parados, it is you that is delusional if you are unaware of these facts.
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