Prop 8?

@Woiyo9,

You are talking about "fraud," which is a crime. You cannot claim a dependent on your income tax form if you have none; that's a crime.

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@Cycloptichorn,

They are free to live together and love each other just like anyone else. No one HAS to get married.

There really is no such thing as "joint SS benefits". However, if they both qualify, they will each receive their own SS benefits.

Everyone is protected against bigotry.

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@cicerone imposter,

What fraud are you talking about?

Felix and Oscar can not file a joint tax return. You want to discriminate against them relative to Prop 8.

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@Woiyo9,

Woiyo9 wrote:

They are free to live together and love each other just like anyone else. No one HAS to get married.

There really is no such thing as "joint SS benefits". However, if they both qualify, they will each receive their own SS benefits.

Everyone is protected against bigotry.

You are wrong on all three counts, Woiyo.

Your first sentence did not adequately respond to what I wrote. The fact that people don't HAVE to get married isn't a significant response to the fact that some are ALLOWED to and others are not.

On the second count, receiving death benefits of one's spouse is a long-time tradition in America that is denied to gays. This is an inequality.

On the third, gays and lesbians are not protected from bigotry on the Federal level. People can be legally fired from the Federal gov't or kicked out of the military for being gay. This is another inequality.

0-3, we normally record that as a strikeout. Three swings, three misses.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

This was more like strike 78...
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@Woiyo9,

Claiming to be a life partner with a heterosexual friend on your income tax is a fraud.

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@Cycloptichorn,

You just twist the facts to meet your distorted point of view.

FACT. No one HAS to get married and it is not a RIGHT

FACT - EVERYONE is protected against bigotry and discrimination in the workplace.

Your argument is based strictly upon feelings and nothing in law.

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@cicerone imposter,

Yet, you want to discriminate against them. Why?

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@Cycloptichorn,

I live in a state where your employer is free to fire you or not hire you for almost any reason under the sun. Only race and sex and handicap status and age are protected reasons that do not allow firing.

If they do not care for bald head men or fat women or whatever and there had been at leasst one case where heterosexuals employees had been fire from a gay bar for being non-gay in my state.

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OMG Woiyo. You're embarrassing yourself. Please stop.

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@Woiyo9,

Woiyo9 wrote:

You just twist the facts to meet your distorted point of view.

FACT. No one HAS to get married and it is not a RIGHT

It's a right if you're not gay.

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FACT - EVERYONE is protected against bigotry and discrimination in the workplace.

This is untrue. There is no Federal law preventing the firing of gays and lesbians over their sexual status, and most states do not have a State law either. You are 100% wrong.

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Your argument is based strictly upon feelings and nothing in law.

How would you know? You aren't even familiar with the laws in question.

Do me a favor, since you claim to know the law: show me the federal law which prohibits discrimination against gays and lesbians in the workplace.

Cycloptichorn

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

I live in a state where your employer is free to fire you or not hire you for almost any reason under the sun. Only race and sex and handicap status and age are protected reasons that do not allow firing.

If they do not care for bald head men or fat women or whatever and there had been at leasst one case where heterosexuals employees had been fire from a gay bar for being non-gay in my state.

Okay; most states are like that. But your sexual orientation should be on the list as well, for there is nothing about being gay or straight which affects one's ability to perform work one whit.

This is a great example of discrimination Bill and I'm glad you recognize it.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html

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@Cycloptichorn,

There are RIGHTS offered to married couples under the defense of marriage act but there is no RIGHT to be married.

That is a difference your tiny mind would never understand.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/leg23.htm

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@Woiyo9,

Woiyo9 wrote:

http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/qanda.html

Did you even read your own link?

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Discriminatory practices under these laws also include:

* harassment on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, or age;
* retaliation against an individual for filing a charge of discrimination, participating in an investigation, or opposing discriminatory practices;
* employment decisions based on stereotypes or assumptions about the abilities, traits, or performance of individuals of a certain sex, race, age, religion, or ethnic group, or individuals with disabilities; and
* denying employment opportunities to a person because of marriage to, or association with, an individual of a particular race, religion, national origin, or an individual with a disability. Title VII also prohibits discrimination because of participation in schools or places of worship associated with a particular racial, ethnic, or religious group.

You will note that Sexual Orientation is not listed as a Discriminatory practice. The law does not explicitly state that it is illegal to do so.

When are you going to stop posting evidence that helps my case and hurts yours, Woiyo?

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

That was the same question I had; he knows how to post the laws against discrimination, but obviously doesn't comprehend what it says.

Some people are just too dumb to have an intelligent discussion with. They present conflicting positions without knowing it.

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@Woiyo9,

Woiyo9 wrote:

There are RIGHTS offered to married couples under the defense of marriage act but there is no RIGHT to be married.

That is a difference your tiny mind would never understand.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/leg23.htm

You are ignorant. Heterosexual couples in America have the RIGHT to apply for a marriage license and to get married. They can even become so-called 'common-law' marriages in several states after cohabitation for years, without a marriage license. Realistically almost nobody who is not already involved in a marriage contract is denied a license to do so.

Homosexual couples do not enjoy these rights or the privileges that come with them; therefore, claims of equality on your part are spurious.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Merry Andrew posted the following in another thread, but it applies equally to Woiyo and company:

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Re: ebrown p (Post 3499410)
Foofie has some difficulty in understanding irony, especially when it's inadvertantly of her own making.

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@Cycloptichorn,

They have the right to apply same as I, except not to each other.

This is a social issue, not a legal issue.

The citizens HAVE THE RIGHT to determine how we want to structure our society and the citizens of this Nation have decided a marriage is defined as between one man and one woman.

NO COURT should over-ride the will of the people on social issues.

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@Woiyo9,

Woi Yo wrote:

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This is a social issue, not a legal issue.

No, it's a religious' and legal issue. You still don't understand what "equal rights" means, and probably never will. Your religious' bigotry has calcified your brain to the point it's irreversible.

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