How Do We Explain An Obama Loss?

Boy, that feels good. Been waiting thirty years to be able to say that and have the shoe be on the other foot.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Boy, that feels good. Been waiting thirty years to be able to say that and have the shoe be on the other foot.

LOL. I feel ya, dawg.

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@gungasnake,

What are you suggesting? Partition, along the lines of say, India & Pakistan? Wink

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I don't like the idea of EITHER half of the country walking around feeling they've just been totally subjugated for the next four years; that's no way to run a country.

Perhaps the non-Bush folk haven't exactly enjoyed what that presidency did for the US, either? ... but I can't recall talk of "splitting up the country" in response to Bush's victories at the polls , nor threats of "citizens uprisings" as some disgruntled Republican supporters have been fantasizing about on these pages of late ....
Look, it's democracy. Sometimes your side wins, sometimes it loses. It is not the end of the world if things don't go your way. Disappointing for you, of course - but I think you're overreacting.

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@msolga,

The term "half" is kind of funny in this context. The wacky right is far fewer than half (and not all McCain votes are wacky right).

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@snood,

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"Has the prospect of having Barack Obama as President made Finn come completely unhinged?"

Finn has always been unhinged - speaking as someone who is totally hinged.

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@gungasnake,

And no-one felt that way either time Bush was elected?

Grow up.

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How do we explain an Obama loss?
Two words.
Bill Clinton.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

I know this isn't going to be a popular thing to say, but I think racism is going to work for Obama in this election more than it will work against him.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Too many brain dead citizens running around would be my guess.

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@Eorl,

Eorl wrote:

I know this isn't going to be a popular thing to say, but I think racism is going to work for Obama in this election more than it will work against him.

I don't think so. The Black vote went 88% Democrat last election. Obama is running 91% in polls. I think any Democrat would pull that same percentage in this environment. It's possible that Obama's ability to register new voters is racially motivated, but that disregards his amazing ground organization. This is not to say that black voters are voting race, but those votes are reliably Democratic anyway.

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@Phoenix32890,

Phoenix32890 wrote:

I think that there are issues that are emerging..............Obama's relationship with Ayers, Wright and Khalidi, and his apparent socialism, that are making people look again at Obama in a somewhat different light.

These aren't emerging issues, they are long emerged issues, and the public has either ignored them are mulled them over and found them inconsequential.

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@engineer,

Fair point.

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@engineer,

The public is just now realizing the issues exist because they are just now emerging in the main stream media.
The media decided that these issues would hurt Obama and they buried them for as long as they could.
Most Americans have been duped by Obama and the media helped him with his plan of deception.

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What about some hanging chads?

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@engineer,

There's a necessary differentiation to be made here.

It's one thing to support an African American for the presidency on the basis of ethnicity in order to help negate an old and oppressive cultural tradition (to break a glass ceiling, to use that cliche).

It is another thing entirely to refuse to support and African American out of a conception that this ethnicity is, in some manner, inferior.

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@engineer,

Your statement is correct. Phoenix, who I've met, is quoting the sources to which she attends and doing so without much reflection, thus her error.

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@blatham,

Entirely agree, yet positive racism is still racism. I think Obama has done a wonderful job of keeping race out of it as much as he has, and I look forward to the day when it isn't an issue at all. Could be a while away, sadly.

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@eoe,

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How do we explain an Obama loss?
Two words.
Bill Clinton.

Interesting, but I wouldn't give him that much credit.

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@BillRM,

There we go Freeduck - another catch

Too many brain dead citizens running around would be my guess.

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@Eorl,

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Entirely agree, yet positive racism is still racism.

Be careful you don't fall into the trap of making this term quite meaningless. Giving african americans the vote was a policy based on racial difference, after all.

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