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Oinkbama refuses answers to qualification lawsuit(s)

 
 
Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 05:03 am
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_birth_certificate/2008/10/24/143882.html?s=al&promo_code=6E2D-1

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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 06:06 am
@gungasnake,
FActcheck dot com has taken the time to check this and has found that the Obama birth certificate is real.

Im not certain that Obama has any obligation to do anything but ask for this case to be dismissed. It can become a bozo hunt for boogeymen just like the "911 for truth " douche bags.

Berg feels that by filing a bogus lawsuit he gets immediate higher status and that he desrved an answer. Well he knows that this can get buried for years and that the Obama campaign has already provided adequate proof of Baracks birth and proof of his status as a natural citizen. If Berg (or you gunga) feel that, by posting this stuff, your speculation has merit, then you are certainly allowed to freely assemble and bitch. Pardon the rest of the country if they dont bite at the lure.


Berg is getting just the result he deserves.

PS Mysteryman started a similar thread and Chai posted the factcheck URL.
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 06:26 am
@gungasnake,
That's a stupid story.
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A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers.
Federally mandated deadline?

No, Berg put a false deadline in his lawsuit based on his misreading of the law. It wasn't mandated. The Obama campaign filed a motion to dismiss and a motion to hold discovery and Berg has responded with a flurry of motions including one for summary judgement based on his misinterpretation of the law.

It seems newsmax is run by morons.
The court filings and rulings can be found here.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/

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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 12:51 pm
GUNGA IS FOND OF POSTING IDIOTIC CRAP AND THEN, LIKE THE WHINING LITTLE MAN HE IS, HE RUNS AWAY AND HIDES.

parados
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 12:54 pm
@farmerman,
I guess gunga must have missed his world net daily quota today. They are reporting this lawsuit was thrown out by the judge yesterday.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 01:21 pm
@farmerman,
This whole brouhaha is so stale that I'm surprised that even a cretin like gungashit would even post it. This is all last year's news and has been diced, disected and dismissed a dozen times over.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 01:30 pm
Judge tosses lawsuit challenging Obama citizenship

23 hours ago

PHILADELPHIA (AP) " A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's qualifications to be president.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick on Friday night rejected the suit by attorney Philip J. Berg, who alleged that Obama was not a U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency. Berg claimed that Obama is either a citizen of his father's native Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia after he moved there as a boy.

Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan father. His parents divorced and his mother married an Indonesian man.

Internet-fueled conspiracy theories question whether Obama is a "natural-born citizen" as required by the Constitution for a presidential candidate and whether he lost his citizenship while living abroad.

Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."
DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 03:59 pm
mccain was born in panama. how come that doesn't bother you, gungadin?
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 06:52 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
DontTreadOnMe wrote:

mccain was born in panama. how come that doesn't bother you, gungadin?


And why doesn't it bother you just as much that the court case to verify McCain's citizenship was tossed out for the very same reasons?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 07:05 pm
@InfraBlue,
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Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case...



That's pretty ******* far from ruling that there isn't any case.

What're some of you geniuses gonna do if Oinnkbama wins this election and THEN is ruled eligible and the election ruled null and void??

parados
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 07:07 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
What're some of you geniuses gonna do if Oinnkbama wins this election and THEN is ruled eligible

I guess we will enjoy his presidency.

What are you non geniuses gonna do gunga?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 07:10 pm
@parados,
I mean ruled ineligible, sorry.

Stranger things can and have happened in the world.
parados
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 07:40 pm
@gungasnake,
Even your subconscious knows how stupid your argument is, it seems gunga.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 08:12 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
DontTreadOnMe wrote:

mccain was born in panama. how come that doesn't bother you, gungadin?


The problem DTOM is that the Obama campaign appears to be stalling or dodging on this issue. It gives the appearance that he is attempting to hide something and that just whets the appetite of those who want to know. John McCain provided full and complete information and permission for access to all available documentation to settle the issue of his natural birth status. Obama could have easily provided full access to all documents and circumstances of his birth as well and put this matter to rest ages ago. But for those documents to be made available to only a few Obama-friendly sources and not to others requesting them and they have apparently not been furnished to the many judges now involved in all the various suits.

And it does beg the question, why? I don't expect there to be a problem, but if there is a problem with his legal status, don't you think it is prudent to know that before all the votes are cast on November 4?

Quote:
Court Says McCain Is a US Citizen

By Stony Olsen

In yet another one of those odd quirks of this election season, both Barack Obama and John McCain have had to deal with charges that they are ineligible to run for president because they are not ''natural born citizens.''

A court has ruled that being born in Panama doesn't disqualify John McCain from running for president.
09/19/08

In fact, lawsuits have been filed against both candidates, but on September 16th, in Robinson v. Bowen, the court in the McCain case ruled that McCain was, in fact, eligible to be president.

The supposed problem for John McCain was simple: He was born in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 to two US citizens. The US Constitution, in Article II, states that ''No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.'' So, of course, the question was whether McCain was a natural born citizen, seeing as he wasn’t actually born within the boundaries of the 50 US states.

The court said, however, in a nicely technical analysis of the relevant citizenship laws in effect around the time of McCain’s birth, that he was eligible according to the Constitution. However, the court further stated, pretty much, that the court itself didn’t have the ultimate say on the subject, as questions of qualifications belong to Congress and the Electoral College. In other words, standing was the determinative factor.

This result comes as no surprise. Both campaigns have pretty much left this issue alone, as both have some small controversies associated with the citizenship of their candidate. The case against Senator Obama, though, is likely to be just as easily swept out of court.

In any case, this legal hurdle is now pretty much over for Senator McCain, assuming it was ever really an issue in the first place. And thus, it was a bit of good news for McCain in a week filled with bad news.
http://www.lawcrossing.com/article/index.php?id=4502


I disapprove of the disrespectful way Gunga refers to Barack Obama. But Gunga is absolutely correct that throwing a case out of court because of a lack of standing by the one bringing the suit is very different from saying that there is no case.

Obama should do whatever it takes to provide the evidence that there is no case. If either Senator McCain or Senator Obama are ineligible to be President of the United States, we should have the right to know that before we vote.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 09:39 pm
@Foxfyre,
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Obama could have easily provided full access to all documents and circumstances of his birth as well and put this matter to rest ages ago....


There's the outside possibility that Oinkbama doesn't even KNOW who his parents actually are, i.e. was one of these "it takes a village" kids you read about here and there.

Further evidence of something being hidden from public view:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79174
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2008 09:41 pm
@Foxfyre,
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If either Senator McCain or Senator Obama are ineligible to be President of the United States, we should have the right to know that before we vote.


What hypocrisy, Foxy. You didn't hold GWB to the same standard.
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