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Coverage of McCain Much More Negative Than That of Obama

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:00 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

OK wise one.

What are the qualifications needed to run as a VP or President in your mind?


I'd start with a clear understanding of what the job entails, something that Palin lacks. Next after that, an understanding of the complexities of the issues we face as a nation would be key. She lacks that as well.

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:08 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Not to mention the verbal ability to explain it, which is something she clearly lacks. That she has impressed the likes of Woiyo and cj is understandable. I don't think I've read a cogent statement from either. Foxy, well she's simply a GOP shill.

The smarter GOP shills have fled the scene, knowing that this tripe just don't fly. [H20man not included]
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:37 am
@Cycloptichorn,
You just do not agree with her assessment.

She has more experience and insight to govt than the candidate for president on the dem side. However, since you support his socialist agenda, you would obviously criticize his opponents.

Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:39 am
@JTT,
You apparently do not have the ability to understand her. Maybe it is her accent that throws you off. Simple minded people like you are easily persuaded by empty suits like Obama.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:41 am
@Woiyo9,
Quote:
She has more experience and insight to govt than the candidate for president on the dem side.


Yeah, REALITY man. Have you heard her take on what the vp does? Have you heard her take on anything? She is a mightily confused individual. She hasn't even learned to mouth the platitudes correctly.
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:43 am
@JTT,
If you are referring to the conversation she had with elementary school children, it is good to know you were in attendance that day.

Did your Mommy and Daddy finally got a job?
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:54 am
@Woiyo9,
You are nearing me invoking the "ignore" button.

BBB

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:55 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

You just do not agree with her assessment.

She has more experience and insight to govt than the candidate for president on the dem side. However, since you support his socialist agenda, you would obviously criticize his opponents.


What a bunch of crap, and provably false.

Look, I don't agree with McCain's assessments of our nation and the problems facing it in most cases; but I don't argue that he doesn't understand the problems, or that he doesn't understand the job of the president or VP. He clearly does and has displayed this through his speech and answers to questions.

This is directly opposite of Palin. She clearly does not understand the role of the VP or many of the problems facing America at this time. Her answers to questions about them are confusing and all over the place; it is difficult to find any real insight or solutions in her answers, just a bunch of buzz-phrases and winks.

To say that she has more experience and insight than Obama is foolish in the extreme, and to the best of my knowledge you are the only person I've seen argue that point, Woiyo.

Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 11:56 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

If you are referring to the conversation she had with elementary school children, it is good to know you were in attendance that day.

Did your Mommy and Daddy finally got a job?


She didn't have a conversation with elementary school children, Woiyo. She was giving an interview to a reporter, who asked her questions that were written by children. And she didn't even answer the questions correctly. Pathetic.

Cycloptichorn
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 12:08 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
An important fact that Republican talking heads have tried to excuse Palin because she was talking to third grade children. Not true.

Not only can Woiyo not read, he apparently also can't watch and listen. Are the left side and right side of his brain having a civil war?

BBB
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 12:09 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

You think very highly of yourself, buddy!
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 12:15 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
All this, in your opinion of course.

My opinion differs from yours. She has as good of an understanding of the issues facing this Nation as anyone in Govt. As a sitting Governor, she has the experience necessary to influence and work her State Senate to pass legislation that directly effect peoples lives.

The fact that you do not like the way she talks, or you do not agree with her positions is more likely a bias against successful republican woman than anything else. I say this since you have NEVER EVER given her credit for being elected Gov of a State that was run by the gigantic republican machine for years.
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 12:16 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
And she answered it so a child could understand it. It apparently worked since you seem to understand also.
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 12:18 pm
@Woiyo9,
It seems in Alaska that there are two types of Republican governors, senators, congresspersons, mayors. Competent corruption and incompetent corruption. Alaska has been famous for such distriction for many years.

BBB

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 12:20 pm
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

All this, in your opinion of course.

My opinion differs from yours. She has as good of an understanding of the issues facing this Nation as anyone in Govt. As a sitting Governor, she has the experience necessary to influence and work her State Senate to pass legislation that directly effect peoples lives.

The fact that you do not like the way she talks, or you do not agree with her positions is more likely a bias against successful republican woman than anything else. I say this since you have NEVER EVER given her credit for being elected Gov of a State that was run by the gigantic republican machine for years.



"She has as good of an understanding of the issues facing this Nation as anyone in Govt. "

This is a ridiculous thing to say. I could provide you any one of several answers to questions that she's given, showing this is untrue.

Biased towards a 'successful Republican woman,' lol. Listen to yourself. Do you honestly think that is true? None of my arguments have revolved around her status, or her governorship; but instead have focused on her command, or lack thereof, of the serious issues which face our nation. You are attempting to substitute my factual and logical argument with an emotional or sexist one. It's understandable why you are doing this, but unfortunately, not compelling.

Cycloptichorn
revel
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 01:01 pm
@Woiyo9,
Quote:
And she answered it so a child could understand it. It apparently worked since you seem to understand also.


Quote:
Palin Answers Third Grader: 'The Vice President Is In Charge Of The U.S. Senate'

The KUSA, an NBC affiliate in Colorado, usually asks presidential and vice-presidential nominees questions posed by elementary school students. Brandon Garcia, a third grader asked Sarah Palin, “What does the Vice President do?”

Palin replied:

Aw, that’s something that Piper would ask me, as a second grader, also. That's a great question, Brandon, and a Vice President has a really great job, because no only are they there to support the President agenda, they're like a team member, the team mate to that President. But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the Senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job.

We all agree with Palin that it is a great question but she gave a wrong answer.

Based on the original job description of Vice President, it says the following:

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have not vote, unless they be equally divided.

Palin goes on and says a VP will make policy changes and persuade senators, but that is not possible in the current U.S. Senate.

The Article I of the Constitution establishes only an exceptionally limited role for the Vice President and gives the office holder a vote only when the Senate is “equally divided”.

The U.S. Senate website explains that Vice Presidents preside over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions.

Peter Robinson, Senior Assistant Parliamentarian, told ThinkProgress.org about this VP role explanation:

In modern practice the Vice President doesn’t really control the Senate. … If anyone has a responsibility to try to govern the Senate, it’s the responsibility of the two leaders.

Jim Manley, spokesman to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) issued the following statement to Think Progress:

This comment is all the more puzzling because this is at least the 2nd time she has said this. Gov Palin needs to re-read or perhaps read for the first time the Constitution. While the Vice President presides over the Senate, he or she is not in charge of it. Article 1 says The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided.


http://www.digitaljournal.com/print/article/261455
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 01:02 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Maybe you have a bias against all women. I do not recall you being very supportive of Hillary Clinton. I see a pattern here with you.

For you to suggest that a sitting Gov is not qualified for the office is not very logical.
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 01:11 pm
@revel,
"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the Senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job."

The key is IF THEY WANT TO THEY CAN.......

You clowns are again twisting the statement.

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 01:16 pm
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the Senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job."

The key is IF THEY WANT TO THEY CAN.......

You clowns are again twisting the statement.




No, they really can't. The VP does not have any power to make policy changes at all. They can push the exec branch's line in the Senate, but it's not part of their job to do so.

I note how quick you resorted to cries of 'sexism!' when others brought up factual and logical arguments against Palin's candidacy. No, Woiyo, the fact that she is Gov of AK does not automatically qualify her to be the VP. That's a ridiculous position for you to be taking.

Cycloptichorn
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Thu 23 Oct, 2008 01:52 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
The quote did not imply the VP could. It DID say that if they want to they can really get in there WITH THE SENATORS AND MAKE GOOD POLICY.

When you do finally come up with a logical argument, let us know!
 

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