Home invader dies in struggle with father of intended victim. Cool.

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Police: Sex Offender Brought Rope, Condoms, Knife To Planned Attack

INDIANAPOLIS -- A man who police said broke into a home with the intention of sexually assault a 17-year-old girl in her bedroom died early Sunday morning after a struggle with the girl's father.
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Hopefully, it was a certain someone we know.

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@OCCOM BILL,

No firearms involved I notice..... Ever notice that Lizzie Bordon and Jack the Ripper never owned a gun between them??

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@OCCOM BILL,

Something is very fishy about this story.

Admittedly, I don't know much about how rapists think. But, wouldn't you commit a crime in the with the least chance of getting caught? Breaking into a occupied house with rope and a gag doesn't sound like a plan that anyone would try.

This sounds like a goofy plot to a police drama. I don't buy it.

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Assuming it happened as described, the guy had it coming.

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@ebrown p,

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Something is very fishy about this story.

Admittedly, I don't know much about how rapists think. But, wouldn't you commit a crime in the with the least chance of getting caught? Breaking into a occupied house with rope and a gag doesn't sound like a plan that anyone would try.

This sounds like a goofy plot to a police drama. I don't buy it.

Your complaint is that the rapist was guilty
of inadequate PLANNING ?

David

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@gungasnake,

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Re: OCCOM BILL (Post 3418665)
No firearms involved I notice..... Ever notice that Lizzie Bordon
and Jack the Ripper never owned a gun between them??

Yeah; same as Atta & friends on 9/11; Tim McVeigh used no guns,
nor did Richard Davis in the rape n murder of Polly Klass.
(Can we all agree that it woud have been GREAT
if when Davis broke in on the girls' slumber party,
with his knife, if the girls had guns close at hand,
and opened up on him before he coud do the job on any of THEM ??
or: was it better that the rapist and murderer have control ?? )

Before guns were invented, murderers & rapists did not wait
around impatiently, looking at their watches demanding to know
how much longer until guns will become available.

Where there is a will there is a way.

David

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@OCCOM BILL,

Since when is violence and death cool?

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@Cliff Hanger,

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Since when is violence and death cool?

Since whenever a perverted rapist and murderer
(someone like Richard Davis) has the victim defensively kill him,
THAT is supercool !!!

Thay shoud mint a gold commemorative coin
(limited issue)
with the triumphant victim 's countenance upon it !
Grant her a tax waiver, and make it a holiday !

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Factually, my suggestion is that perhaps the killer (i.e. the father) was guilty of more than adequate planning.

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@Cliff Hanger,

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Since when is violence and death cool?

Let us take cognizance
that when a sexually predatory maniac (probably psychotic)
such as the decedent in this case is KILLED,
the decent people are all a lot better off for this event.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Let us be mindful although the deceased attempted a brutal act of violence--his death ought not be classified as cool.

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@ebrown p,

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Admittedly, I don't know much about how rapists think.
But, wouldn't you commit a crime in the with the least chance
of getting caught? Breaking into a occupied house with rope and
a gag doesn't sound like a plan that anyone would try.

In the immortal words of Mayor Rudy Giuliani:
" Who knows why crazy people do things ? "

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@Cliff Hanger,

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Let us be mindful although the deceased attempted a brutal act
of violence--his death ought not be classified as cool.

With the fullness of Respect, Mr. Hanger,
I challenge the validity of your assertion, and I invite u to PROVE it.

I don 't think u CAN.
I think that the most u can do,
is to hurl an emotional, politically correct, insult at me.

(I hope that u will accept my assurance that I go out of my way to avoid being politically correct.)

David

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@ebrown p,

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Re: OmSigDAVID(Post 3418717)
Factually, my suggestion is that perhaps the killer (i.e. the father)
was guilty of more than adequate planning.

OK; let us note that this post changes focus of attention
from the deceased rapist, to the defender: the killer-father.

If he was in fact guilty of being too well prepared, as u put it,
then how come he was reduced to wrestling and strangling the naked rapist ?

(maybe if he had set a snare, and then smacked the inverted rapist
with a club, like a pinyatta, I might see your point)

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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I don 't think u CAN.
I think that the most u can do,
is to hurl an emotional, politically correct, insult at me.

(I hope that u will accept my assurance that I go out of my way to avoid being politically correct.)

Mr. David, my approach is not from the angle of political correctness. In addition-- you state my response is purely an emotional one-- I disagree, regardless of the act and the brutality intended-- the rapists death is not cool. justice has prevailed, but the fact that he died is not cool. I am arguing from the vantage point of word choice, not from emotions.

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@Cliff Hanger,

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Mr. David, my approach is not fropm the angle of political correctness.

I 'm pleased to know that.

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In addition-- you state my response is purely an emotional one--

No; I was PREDICTING that your response to me
woud be to hurl an emotional insult. U have proven me rong about that.
As it turns out, u appear to be too decent, intelligent and self-possessed to lower yourself to that.
I have become accustomed to dealing with responses that consist of semi-hysterical vituperation.

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I disagree, regardless of the act and the brutality intended--
the rapists death is not cool.

Well, since u allege that to be the fact, can u prove it ?
I can justify the negation thereof.

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justice has prevailed, but the fact that he died is not cool.

Can u PROVE this allegation ?

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I argue you are approaching it from an emotional angle--

Well, I must admit that I regard it with HAPPINESS; that is an emotion.
I guess u got me there!

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you've gotten carried away with the idea of the coolness
of his death you have lost perspective.

Perspective of WHAT ?

I must say, with the most earnest sincerity:
I hope that all future violent crimes come to very similar ends.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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I must say, with the most earnest sincerity:
I hope that all future violent crimes come to very similar ends.

This we agree on, however, the alleged rapists death nonetheless goes deeper than the simplistic characterization of being cool. Violence is a serious business-- I am realistic enough to know that violence under these circumstances, if they are true, was essential.

I believe justice has been served but in no way do I celebrate this man's demise as sophmoric as being cool. By classifiying this as cool you are putting his death in the same category as your favorite football team coming from behind and winning the game.

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@Cliff Hanger,

call it thinning the herd... not cool... but nothing to be unhappy about.

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@Cliff Hanger,

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This we agree on, however, the alleged rapists death nonetheless
goes deeper than the simplistic characterization of being cool.
Violence is a serious business-- I am realistic enough to know
that violence under these circumstances, if they are true, was essential.

Counterviolence was necessary
and it was successfully applied; a cause for jubilance !

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I believe justice has been served but in no way do I celebrate
this man's demise as sophmoric as being cool.

Well, maybe the rest of us
can celebrate 2ice as much, to compensate for the discrepancy.

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By classifiying this as cool
you are putting his death in the same category
as your favorite football team coming from behind and winning the game.

I lovingly embrace your analysis,
but I adopt the diametrically opposite conclusion.
I will EXULT in the success of the good guys
at the expense of the bad guys, despite their struggle before victory.

That woud make a good movie !
More butter on my popcorn, please !

David

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@Bi-Polar Bear,

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Re: Cliff Hanger(Post 3418771)
call it thinning the herd... not cool... but nothing to be unhappy about.

I will delight in the fact that u, Squinney, and all of your cubs
will be safer, for his not being around to threaten any of u.

David

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