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McCain mirrors Bush

 
 
JTT
 
Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 08:49 pm
Where is that Bush Aftermath thread? How come McG, Foxy, Gob1, Finn, MM and the whole crew let such a valuable tribute to Bush drop?

A man of that caliber should not be forgotten. Some want to elect his mirror image.

Quote:

Former Bush adviser on working for Bush: Don’t want to ‘emphasize that on your resume.’

In the Texas Observer today, Anthony Zurcher describes how “no one’s been rolling out the red carpet” for Bush administration officials as they return to Texas. “For every Karen Hughes who lands a highly paid consulting gig, there’s an Alberto Gonzales, who seems condemned to wander the Earth in search of gainful employment,” writes Zurcher. Former Bush pollster Matthew Dowd explains why the Bush association makes it difficult “to make a go of a political career“:

If any of Bush’s Texas crowd wants to make a go of a political career, however, they’re going to have to do it in spite of their ties to the administration and not because of them, at least in near term.

“Bush is an anchor,” Dowd said. “I don’t think you can take your experience in Washington working with the Bush administration and emphasize that on your resumé.”

After leaving the administration in disgrace, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales found it difficult to find a job. Gonzales has only been able to find work recently, providing assistance to a special master on a patent case.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/19/dowd-bush-anchor/

 
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 08:53 pm
@JTT,
Between the two Bush is million times better.

Yes i mean million times better.
None in internet chat forum had opposed vehemently like me. But now I wish Bush and his family all the best.
Those Americans who wish a faded, diluted, degraded Bush as president should also enjoy their life.
We are enjoying our poor life without regrets and remorse.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 08:54 pm
@JTT,
Poor Alberto, pounding the streets like the average American looking for a job.
He's the one that approved torture of our prisoners, and should be charged with a domestic and international crime.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 09:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yeah, doesn't that just break your heart, CI?

Here's another way that McCain mirrors Bush. Neither has any qualms at all about repeating lies. You can almost hear Bush's "smoking gun" in John's speech.

Quote:
McCain repeats Palin’s lie: Alaska ‘provides 20 percent of America’s energy requirements.’

In her interview with ABC News last week, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin asserted that Alaska “produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy.” After FactCheck.org pointed out that Alaska is actually responsible for only 3.5 percent of the country’s domestic energy production, Palin began re-phrasing her claim. But in an interview with Sean Hannity on Wednesday McCain continued to repeat the debunked claim:

HANNITY: By the way, senator, she, she’s very convinced she can convince you into drilling in ANWR.

MCCAIN: Hahahaha, you know, that’s what happens when you throw two mavericks together. So, I’d, listen, I, she, you know, we talk about experience. What’s one of the major, if not the major challenge to America? Energy independence. Who knows more about energy than the governor of the state that provides 20% of America’s energy requirements?

Though McCain likes to tout Palin as America’s foremost energy expert, such claims have been undermined by her incorrect and confusing statements on the subject. Yesterday, CNN described Palin’s suggested oil export ban as “not exactly easy to understand.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/19/mccain-hannity-energy/



I'm actually really shocked that that top notch reporter, Sean Hannity, didn't catch that and set the senator straight.

[more links, in bold, above, available at the website, above]
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 09:28 pm
Has any country in history ever had to suffer this level, this amount of embarrassment over their chosen leader?

Quote:
Flashback: In 2004 Bush Campaigned For Re-Election On The Backs Of Subprime Mortgages

During the 2004 campaign, President Bush declared his pride in making America what he called “an ownership society.” He promoted expanding home-ownership as the best way to ensure a strong economy, campaigning constantly on the idea:

5/6/04: “Thanks to being the most productive workforce in America, and I might say, thanks to good policies, this economy is strong and it’s getting stronger. … Home sales were the highest ever recently. That’s exciting news for the country.”

8/28/04: See, I love an ownership society. It’s a hopeful society. It’s a society that provides stability in times of change.

8/9/04: If you own your own home, and building equity in your own home, and you’re changing from job to job, it provides great security and relief.

8/6/04: Home ownership is at an all-time high now in America. That’s fantastic news. Isn’t it wonderful to have somebody for the first time be able to say: welcome to my home; I’m glad you’re here at my piece of property.

Of course, what the current enormous crisis " rooted in subprime mortgages " proves is that promoting home ownership without regulatory safeguards is inherently risky. As economist Paul Krugman explained, “orrowing to buy a home is like buying stocks on margin: if the market value of the house falls, the buyer can easily lose his or her entire stake.” And that’s just what happened: More homeowners now owe more money than their homes are actually worth, while foreclosure filings in August rose 12 percent from July " and represented a 27 percent increase from Aug. 2007.

Further, the quest for an all-encompassing ownership society led to the policies that have created the crisis. From dramatically low interest rates to ignoring the warnings about predatory lending to quashing state regulations that would have helped prevent such massive Wall Street investment in subprime loans, Bush and his allies built an economy on a house of cards that was bound to collapse.

Today, Bush declared, “There will be ample opportunity to debate the origins of this problem.” That debate will need to focus on his own failed promise of an “ownership society” as an economic panacea.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/19/bush-ownership-society/

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 11:09 pm
@JTT,
I remember conservatives on a2k bragging about this "ownership soceity" in America. Looks like they got kicked on the backside.
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 06:34 am
@cicerone imposter,
Well, with all the so called bail outs, looks like the taxpayers really do own America.

Now if we can only elected people who can actually run the thing, we would be in good shape.
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 09:37 am
@Woiyo9,
http://able2know.org/topic/122904-1
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 12:09 pm
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo, The taxpayers do "not" own America; try to get some of that $700 billion that the government is throwing at this financial problem. When you own something, you have some "control" over it; we have zilch control.
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 12:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Really??? WOW!!!

I always thought the US Govt got their money from TAXPAYERS.

So I guess these little green men in the basement of the Treasury start up their HP Color Printer and just print money.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 01:27 pm
There's really gotta be some amendments to the constitution. It doesn't seem possible that a country could get stuck with an idiot like this but there has to be a better way to move him on out and bring in someone with a modicum of sense.

Quote:
New poll: Zero percent of Americans think national economy is improving.»

A new American Research Group poll shows that “[n]o Americans say that the national economy is getting better,” while 82 percent say it is getting much worse. Only 17 percent approve of President Bush’s handling of the economy, with 78 percent disapproving. Even among Republicans, more disapprove of his economic performance than approve:

Among Republicans, 46% approve of the way Bush is handling the economy and 48% disapprove. Among Democrats, 97% disapprove of the way Bush is handling the economy and 2% approve. Among independents, 8% approve and 87% disapprove of the way Bush is handling the economy.

Bush’s overall approval rating fell to 19 percent, from 30 percent last month, with 76 percent disapproving.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/22/bush-approval-19/

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 02:37 pm
@JTT,
Just how does these stats explain why conservatives want another Bush term from McCain? It it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, isn't it a duck?
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 04:22 pm
More of the aftermath.

Bush: "We don't torture."

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Court orders Bush administration to release torture photos.

An appeals court today ruled that the Bush administration “must release 20 photographs of U.S. soldiers and detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan” that were demanded by the ACLU, which is seeking information on prisoner abuse. The court “rejected the government’s claim that releasing the photos would endanger the lives or physical safety of U.S. troops and civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. A lower court judge had already ordered that identifying facial features be removed from the pictures before they are released.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/22/court-release-photos/

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 04:26 pm
@JTT,
JTT, Aprospos as it applies to the bailouts; our government is now in the business of torturing its own citizens by incurring these huge taxpayer liabilities that is bound to last for generations. You can bet your bottom dollar that almost everything will increase in price as our dollar continues its downward spiral. We thought gas was expensive at $4/gallon. ROFLMEO
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 06:15 pm
BANANA REPUBLIC

Quote:

Dirty Secret Of The Bailout: Thirty-Two Words That None Dare Utter

Jason Linkins

A critical - and radical - component of the bailout package proposed by the Bush administration has thus far failed to garner the serious attention of anyone in the press. Section 8 (which ironically reminds one of the popular name of the portion of the 1937 Housing Act that paved the way for subsidized affordable housing ) of this legislation is just a single sentence of thirty-two words, but it represents a significant consolidation of power and an abdication of oversight authority that's so flat-out astounding that it ought to set one's hair on fire. It reads, in its entirety:

Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/22/dirty-secret-of-the-bailo_n_128294.html



When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

The history of the present King of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 30 Sep, 2008 09:26 pm
George is going for a world's record.

Quote:

Historic Disapproval: Bush Hits All-Time Low Amid Economic Meltdown
Obama Leads McCain 50-46 in Latest ABC News/Washington Post Poll

McCain's laboring under the Bush legacy. With the current economic situation, a record 70 percent of Americans disapprove of George W. Bush's job performance; a career-low 26 percent approve.

Bush's Disapproval Rating Highest in History

Just two presidents have had lower approval (Richard Nixon and Harry Truman) than President Bush, and none has had higher disapproval in polls since 1938.

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=5920248&page=1


Some good stuff too, on McCain and Obama.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 30 Sep, 2008 09:32 pm
@JTT,
You want to see "presidential", have a peek at,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

Better hurry, it's a headline photo that won't last long.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Sep, 2008 09:35 pm
@JTT,
There was a chart shown on tv today that shows Obama with over 300 electoral votes. I wonder if anybody can find that?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Sep, 2008 09:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Here's one biased report I found:

Posted by Paul Hooson
Published: Sep 30, 08 07:46 AM

After an impressive debate performance by Senator Barack Obama he continues to hang onto a five point lead in the latest Rasmussen Poll with many "red states" that voted for George Bush in 2004 very close or else Obama leading in some.

At this point, Obama leads in every state won by John Kerry except small New Hampshire as well as in Iowa, New Mexico, Virginia, Colorado and North Carolina. Ohio, Nevada, Florida are very close. Obama isn't expected to win in tiny Montana, but the polls are fairly close there as a sign of how the Republicans are running weaker this year than 2004. Missouri may be within range for Obama as well. If Obama carries all of these states he could crush the McCain Campaign with well over 300 electoral votes, by several million popular votes, and by a range of six points to even about ten points. This would be a crushing loss for the Republicans.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 30 Sep, 2008 10:05 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Your wish is my command, Sire. I believe that you'll find what you seek here. [damn dial up]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/30/huffposts-real-time-elect_n_130640.html


You have two more wishes left. Use them wisely.

 

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