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A Conservative for Obama (by Wick Allison)

 
 
Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 07:15 pm
A true conservative speaks out for Obama and against McCain

A Conservative for Obama
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My party has slipped its moorings. It’s time for a true pragmatist to lead the country.
Leading Off By Wick Allison, Editor In Chief

THE MORE I LISTEN TO AND READ ABOUT “the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate,” the more I like him. Barack Obama strikes a chord with me like no political figure since Ronald Reagan. To explain why, I need to explain why I am a conservative and what it means to me. ...

“Every great cause,” Eric Hoffer wrote, “begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.” As a cause, conservatism may be dead. But as a stance, as a way of making judgments in a complex and difficult world, I believe it is very much alive in the instincts and predispositions of a liberal named Barack Obama.
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2008 07:39 pm
@engineer,
More ironies are on the way before election day. LOL
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 06:25 am
Funny thing is this guy really is a staunch conservative in the original sense. His observations match mine in many regards. I've always been a "show me the data" type of person and he makes the point that there's plenty of data showing we're going the wrong way.
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 09:38 am
@engineer,
http://able2know.org/topic/122904-1
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 10:01 am
@engineer,
If that's true, why is it that conservatives seem to be missing all that "data?"
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 10:06 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

If that's true, why is it that conservatives seem to be missing all that "data?"


Because what you are seeing is a tension between their ideology and the reality of their desires. What Conservatism produces, and what self-styled 'conservatives' want, are two different things.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 10:07 am
@Cycloptichorn,
That's obvious, but why?
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 11:58 am
@cicerone imposter,
I think it is because old fashioned Buckley conservatives are a minority in the Republican party these days. As the editorial said, the current breed of Republican thinks of tax cuts as a closely held moral belief instead of a tenet related to government size, spending and fiscal responsibility. "Spreading Democracy" has become more important than managing our country for the benefit of its citizens.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 12:04 pm
@engineer,
It's obvious isn't it! They'd rather spend our money in Iraq over spending that same money in our country to fix our infrastructure, schools, healthcare, and a myriad of social issues, and now they want to "throw" $700 billion at a problem without any end game - similar to how we got into the Iraq debacle.

Spend, spend, spend, but don't tax. Good politics to destroy our country.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 12:29 pm
@engineer,
Good piece. Thanks for posting that.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 01:06 pm
@engineer,
I think the time is ripe for Democrats to grab the mantle of fiscal responsibility.

The Republican mantra of "lower taxes, lower taxes" has failed; McCain's proposed budget adds more to the deficit than Obama's.

Now if we could turn the helm just a little more and get some real fiscal responsibility, it would be a good thing.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 02:58 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad, That's not possible in today's economic climate. Any increase in taxes for the wealthy will not replace the tax cuts for the middle class and poor. Obama cannot add much more expenditures for social services from the fixed federal budget. Tax revenues will continue to decrease while more jobs are lost, and consumer spending gets reduced to the necessities of life; shelter, food and fuel.

We've already bled the turnip for all its worth, and the well is dry for the next several decades.

Too many handicaps for all the subsequent presidents who takes over for many years to come.

When we stop the bleeding of jobs and increased inflation, we might see some daylight, but that's going to be a task for the best minds - not for the Palins and McCains.

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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2008 03:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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That's obvious, but why?


I've said it in other forums but I think a large slice of voters (and A2K posters) are no longer thinking when they talk politics. Their side of the fence is now a religious belief, faith-based. More than just passionate support of the local team.
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