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How is Palin a reformist?

 
 
Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:10 am
Lately, Obama and the Dems have been trying to slander Palin as a fake reformist. Lets look at some of the latest propaganda coming from the Obama camp.

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Barack Obama says that John McCain and Sarah Palin are lying about their records when dubbing themselves as the "original mavericks" who would stand up for hard-pressed voters.

Fine, Obama, you want to back that up?

Let's start with John McCain, who has a 100% approval rating on pork-barrel spending for the 2007 legislative season, according to Citizens against government waste. His lifetime score is 88%. What this basically means is that in 2007, John McCain voted with the taxpayers 100% of the time. This means that over his years in the Senate, John McCain voted with the taxpayers 88 out of every 100 votes. And when I say "with the taxpayers" I essentially mean he voted in a way that would allow taxpayers to keep their money, rather than spend it on frivolous government pork projects.

Just in case you weren't aware, Mr. Obama ... you scored a 10% rating in 2007 and an 18% lifetime rating. Oh and your running mate, Joe Biden, he actually managed to score a 0% rating in 2007. These really seem like a pair of guys that are trying to create change in Washington. These really look like the people who are looking out for you, the taxpayers.

But then it is John McCain and Sarah Palin who are lying.

When it comes to Sarah Palin, we've been through the specifics on this Bridge to Nowhere crap. In fact, the Democrat Party in Alaska acknowledges that it was Sarah Palin who finally scrapped the bridge. That website, by the way, disappeared for a while, until pressured to re-post the page (which they did, only at a different address). But just as a little side note ... guess who DID vote for the Bridge to Nowhere. Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Why doesn't the media bring THAT to your attention. Even when given a second chance to shift the funds to Katrina relief programs, Obama and Biden still voted for the Bridge to Nowhere. While John McCain did not end up voting on the amendment, he is on record opposing the earmark.

When it comes to Sarah Palin's record of reform ... let's just look at earmarks, since this is something that Palin and her Senate opponents have in common. Before Sarah Palin's time as governor, the state of Alaska used to request over 100 earmarks each year to be secured by Alaska's congressional delegation. When it came time for Sarah Palin to request her earmarks for the first time as governor ... she slashed that number by half, requesting 54 earmarks. The next year, Palin cut that number AGAIN down to just 31 earmarks. Of those 31 earmarks, 27 of these are continuous or were previously appropriated. When Palin entered the governor's office, the total amount of quests averaged $550 million a year. That number has been reduced to less than $200 million now that Palin is in office. And it would only continue to decline. One of Palin's stated goals as Governor is to ask Congress for no more than a dozen earmarks for her state. On top of all that, Palin insisted that each earmark requested by the state of Alaska demonstrate an important federal purpose and public support. Whenever possible, Palin wants to have earmarks only if they can be matched by state or local budgets. And her administration is currently re-examining previous decisions on transportation earmarks ... the Alaska Department of Transportation is conducting an audit to determine the status of every single one of its recent earmarks.

Let's go ahead and take a look at Barack Obama's earmarks in the Senate. In just three years, Barack Obama has requested over 300 earmark projects totaling $740 million. For the 2008 fiscal year alone, Obama requested 112 earmarks. Sarah Palin? 31.

Just a little something for you have mulling around in your brain as Obama gets all huffy about earmark spending. Sarah Palin actually cuts earmarks, Barack Obama says he supports earmark transparency and then requests almost $1 billion of your tax dollars to be spent on pork projects. Sarah Palin reduces the number of projects, reduces the costs, calls for projects that will only serve the nation as a whole, investigates previous earmark spending ... and yet she is the one "lying."
 
parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 07:23 am
@McGentrix,
It's interesting that you chose the word "reformist" rather than "reformer" when discussing earmarks and Sarah Palin. You do realize that means she doesn't want to eliminate earmarks.
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:07 am
Interesting facts. Hard to dispute these facts.

Can 't even put lipstick on this one to make it look better.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:14 am
@Woiyo9,

Obama asked for $77 per person in Ill over 3 years in earmarks

Palin requested $666 per Alaskan person in earmarks over 2 years and received almost 2 times that amount from her congressional delegation.

Obama $77 per person in earmarks
Palin $666-1200 per person in earmarks.

Facts is facts. It's all in how you present them.
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:23 am
@parados,
Looks to me like Obama is not doing a good job for the MILLIONS of citizens of Illinios.

Gov. Palin seems to be doing a good job for the 500K citizens and Natives of Alaska.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:26 am
@Woiyo9,
Yes she is doing a good job if you accept she is NOT against earmarks as she stated.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:29 am
@McGentrix,
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Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Why doesn't the media bring THAT to your attention.


Because they never falsely claimed to have opposed it?
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:30 am
@parados,
Before Sarah Palin's time as governor, the state of Alaska used to request over 100 earmarks each year to be secured by Alaska's congressional delegation. When it came time for Sarah Palin to request her earmarks for the first time as governor ... she slashed that number by half, requesting 54 earmarks.

And??????
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:32 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

Before Sarah Palin's time as governor, the state of Alaska used to request over 100 earmarks each year to be secured by Alaska's congressional delegation. When it came time for Sarah Palin to request her earmarks for the first time as governor ... she slashed that number by half, requesting 54 earmarks.

And??????


Alaska gets more per person in earmarks then any other State. At the same time, Palin pushed through a 1200 dollar rebate to each citizen, every year. If AK is swimming in money, why do they request so many earmarks?

She's all wet on this issue. It's not a winner for them, because once again their rhetoric doesn't match the reality.

Cycloptichorn
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:35 am
@Cycloptichorn,
When Palin entered the governor's office, the total amount of quests averaged $550 million a year. That number has been reduced to less than $200 million now that Palin is in office. And it would only continue to decline. One of Palin's stated goals as Governor is to ask Congress for no more than a dozen earmarks for her state. On top of all that, Palin insisted that each earmark requested by the state of Alaska demonstrate an important federal purpose and public support. Whenever possible, Palin wants to have earmarks only if they can be matched by state or local budgets. And her administration is currently re-examining previous decisions on transportation earmarks ... the Alaska Department of Transportation is conducting an audit to determine the status of every single one of its recent earmarks.


And???????
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 08:48 am
@Woiyo9,
Wow, it's like the stupid train left the station and the libbies couldn't help but be on it.

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parados
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 09:03 am
@Woiyo9,
Alaskan earmarks for 2008

Interesting statement there Woiyo. I see 185 earmark requests for Alaska in 2008

Palin may have made fewer requests but that doesn't mean Alaska made fewer. Perhaps the fact that Alaska requested 185 earmarks but Palin only requested 54 shows she isn't doing her job.
Woiyo9
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 09:15 am
@parados,
No. I think you all are not giving her credit for defeating the GIGANTIC, CORRUPT Republic Machine up there in Alaska headed by Former Gov. Murkowski and currently smeared republican Senator. Stevens.

Quite an accomplishment and the fact that she is doing her part to reduce spending is also refreshing. Alaska has many infrastructor issues and she is doing what she can as Governor to help her citizens.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 09:15 am
@parados,
Are comments like this a sign of stupidity or just ignorance? I wonder if a study has been done regarding this.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 10 Sep, 2008 09:53 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclo, You're wrong; Palin wins on earmarks with the citizens of Alaska, and she wins on fighting pork at the national level. Never mind the contradiction; they all view her as a "winner."
talk72000
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 07:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Shows she is two-faced. Privately as an Alaskan, she is avaricious but publicly for the nation she puts on an angel face fighting pork barrel.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 07:58 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
"Let's go ahead and take a look at Barack Obama's earmarks in the Senate. In just three years, Barack Obama has requested over 300 earmark projects totaling $740 million. For the 2008 fiscal year alone, Obama requested 112 earmarks. Sarah Palin? 31.

Wow. Do they really want to go there?

This is the Wall Street Journal factchecking the issue of who requested how much in earmarks. Now keep in mind here that Illinois has a population 19 times the size of Alaska's:

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Sen. Obama's actual total for his four years in office is [..] $860 million, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, which does not include $78 million for projects that were of national interest and requested by many lawmakers. [..] For her part, on behalf of the State of Alaska, Gov. Palin has requested $453 million over her two years in office. That does not include any requests made by the Alaska Railroad or the University of Alaska.

So let's see -

Obama requested $860 million in four years = $215 million/year
Palin requested $453 million in two years = $ 227 million/year - for a state with 19 times fewer inhabitants.

Per head of the population per year, Palin requested 20 times as much money in earmarks as Obama.

And they really want to make this look like Obama's the earmarks guy, and Palin's the anti-earmarks fighter? Thats a joke, right?
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 14 Sep, 2008 08:10 pm
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

Looks to me like Obama is not doing a good job for the MILLIONS of citizens of Illinios.

Gov. Palin seems to be doing a good job for the 500K citizens and Natives of Alaska.

OK, you cant have it both ways.

- Yay Palin, courageous fighter against those dastardly earmarks!
- Yay Palin, who took good care of her state's citizens by bringing in them earmarks!

Its either/or.
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