@cicerone imposter,
As I just said--belief is a function of perception. My perception, and that of the majority of the population, is that Christianity, after an admittedly long struggle with our animal nature, has provided a way of life which was undreamt of, indeed unimaginable, in the whole previous history of the human race.
Science is one of its productions but science can go at a rate which requires some inhibitions as expressed anti-ID rejection of cloning and eugenics goes to prove. Copernicus was a shock to the culture. So was Darwin and then Freud and modern behavioural science is such that few people dare even to look into it.
Religion provides for those inhibitions and allows cultural change to be managed at a speed people can come to terms with. Those who want untrammelled science without constraints simply lack a working knowledge of what it is now capable of and what it will be capable of in the future.
They have had a lesson of what untrammelled financial instruments are capable of in the absence of moral constraints.
What is there to provide the inhibitions and constraints if it is not religion?
And what is the use of providing evidence, which I have supplied plenty of, for people who won't even listen to it so closed are their minds.
How often have anti-IDers been asked whether they want a society of 300,000,ooo atheists. They won't answer. And I know why. They don't want that. Which means they actually want religion as a civilising influence and, at the same time, as an easy target at which to vent frustration and spew their invective presumably because spewing invective has a pleasureable effect on the bag of electrical currents and chemical reactions which their own position necessarily says is all we consist of.
Discussions of the social consequences of any policy or philosophy are never baseless. What is baseless is discussion without reference to those consequences. That is just introverted conceit.
The US is the most religious of the modern industrial societies and the most advanced scientifically. I saw the shuttle launch the other day and nobody can touch it. One of our cricketers needs a delicate operation on his elbow and he has gone to the US to have it.
The idea that America is not out on its own in scientific acheivement is laughable. Such an idea is a delusion. A false belief. A crutch.
Onward Christian soldiers.